Alex (Formerly Troy-Pharma.com)

I appreciate what you are saying. The ones from Europe are in the original "bubble packs" as in right out of the box so I believe they are the real strength. Plus, all of the "writing and three round indention's" are very, very clear. I have some prescribed one's also (1 mg ) but I am pretty much out. If I were to take all of the mg's that I take at night to sleep via the prescribed one's, I come up with the same mg that I take from Europe (I hope I am saying that right). In other words, the one's from Europe that are in bubble packs are the same strength as what I get prescribed so I am pretty sure they aren't weak. As you see from what I have quoted of myself and Silver, I don't know what to think now after last night. Today, I feel very sick. As I put with the quote from Silver, all I can do is "bare with these" for a couple of weeks.
Do you feel WD? I got some for sure bunk Klondikes years ago when I was taking them and they were obviously crumbly and not well pressed. Plus, I went into WD when using them.

 
Do you feel WD? I got some for sure bunk Klondikes years ago when I was taking them and they were obviously crumbly and not well pressed. Plus, I went into WD when using them.
I have never experienced WD before but today I am severely nauseated and shaky. Like my nerves are bad... Could be -- BTW, I don't feel "right" in the head. Hard to explain. It's just my thinking is all screwed up! On Klonnies however, if you cut too much you could have a heart attack or stroke. I don't feel as if my BP is up but I have a BP machine and can check....

 
Better not to presume. I am not a recreational user.
That sounded rude. I didn't mean it like that. I had a scary incident with a carrier possibly inspecting a package. You are correct. Benzo wds are life threatening sometimes. We good?

 
Placed first order through alex this morning. Haven't heard back since sending RN but understand he is busy. Will keep posted of how the order goes.

 
That sounded rude. I didn't mean it like that. I had a scary incident with a carrier possibly inspecting a package. You are correct. Benzo wds are life threatening sometimes. We good?
Haha, yup we good. I knew "seizure" could go either way. Glad everything's ok.

Currently expecting tn tonight for my order that I made way too late last week.

 
Be cautious with the 8+5+3, smell like acetic acid, I.e.aspirin, and not sure what's in there. I let a half dissolve in my mouth and I swear to god the very last crumb was solid and numbed my tounge. Very slight increase in heart pound as well. I looked back at another stream related to this from 2013-14 and it seemed like a similar experience. The older forum was regarding purchases from brick and mortar pha^ma@y. Wtf?
my 853s tasted very bitter and I actually got a nice buzz from them, maybe I got lucky? I don't know. I got mine on the 15th

 
Although the rockcees are pricey, they seem to be of the best quality all around. I haven't ordered any, but from what ive read and heard, everyone seems pretty happy with them. The 853s seem to be very hit and miss as well as the percolators. The best percolators I have gotten were the purple nurples.
just read about the possible bunk 853s and I have to say mine are forsure legit ones cause they taste bitter just like hydro should and I get a nice buzz from them.  It sucks though that just days after I got some good ones, someone received some shitty ones. /default_sad.png

 
Yeah I got some that were good as well. Had to take a double dose but I could tell they were def legit. I wish it was more consistent right now.

 
Be cautious with the 8+5+3, smell like acetic acid, I.e.aspirin, and not sure what's in there. I let a half dissolve in my mouth and I swear to god the very last crumb was solid and numbed my tounge. Very slight increase in heart pound as well. I looked back at another stream related to this from 2013-14 and it seemed like a similar experience. The older forum was regarding purchases from brick and mortar pha^ma@y. Wtf?
what did they taste like? sour or bitter?

 
That has been my experience as well. Even though there are well documented issues with the 853s across vendors, I'm still batting a high % on them.

just read about the possible bunk 853s and I have to say mine are forsure legit ones cause they taste bitter just like hydro should and I get a nice buzz from them. It sucks though that just days after I got some good ones, someone received some shitty ones. /default_sad.png
 
Yeah I got some that were good as well. Had to take a double dose but I could tell they were def legit. I wish it was more consistent right now.
Silver, I remember commenting to you the other day that I wasn't sure that the 853 I received last week had anything in them.   I need to now revise that to say that there is definitely something good in them.   They just seem weaker than others that I have had in the past.   As you say, the consistency these days is not at its best.   And, I don't know what accounts for that - maybe age?   

Anyway, they're not worthless.   

 
Got his reply but still no TN. Should have package tomorrow, awaiting anxiously. Very happy to have found this board. Everyone seems extremely helpful.

 
Yes absolutely. Thats how I gauge the ones I get online. After sleeping for say 6-8 hrs with nothing, I wake up and take 2. That way I can tell exactly how strong they are. Ill start having wds after about 1hr after I wake up if ive taken something bunk or nothing at all.

 
That's how it should be for sure... When I had the weak ones,  I couldn't even get anything.. even if I took 4.   I did had 853 that I took 2 and it was good.

 
He usually provides tns later in the evening. As someone posted earlier in this thread, you can sign up or register with the major carriers to get updates before he gives you the tn so youre not waiting anxiously all night. If you read back a couple pages youll find the post about it. Very good idea in my opinion.

Got his reply but still no TN. Should have package tomorrow, awaiting anxiously. Very happy to have found this board. Everyone seems extremely helpful.
 
While is appears there are still shitty pills out there, the odds are starting to swing in our favor to get good ones.

Everyone  still read all the feedback and make your choices wisely.

 
The totally bad ones I got from L actually made me sick. I had wds and horrible effects along with it. On xmas no less. It was aweful. I decided better to just have wds and not take the risk that what I was ingesting was not only fake but down right bad for me. My health and wellness comes first.

That's how it should be for sure... When I had the weak ones, I couldn't even get anything.. even if I took 4. I did had 853 that I took 2 and it was good.
 
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