Thanks so much for the info guys :)
I sort of figured as much, though weird how some people claim to be able to take z drugs or halci0n for years and report minimal withdrawals, but kind of sounds too good to be true.
Hi, yes I meant Benzos, sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for the response, I might research Baclofen as an alternative sleep aid, if nothing else helps.
Thanks.. I was thinking of rotating with Phenibut, but it seems phenibut also hits some GABAa receptors too so that doesn't sounds like a good idea.
Baclofen only hits GABAb correct so there is no cross tolerance? Is it good for sleep?
Also have you noticed any tolerance or withdrawal issues...
Hi guys,
First off, thanks to everyone for making this a very helpful and informative and non-judgemental forum.
I have had trouble sleeping since I was young and in the last few years with a huge life change, it has gotten worse.
I have been using bennies 1-2 times a week when I am tossing...
I am in this boat too..
Broke up with my fiance 8 years ago and since then I just seem to value my alone time too much to seek out dating/relationships etc.
I'm also a musician so I spend a lot of time at home working on music, so maybe its for the best.
I'm open to being in a relationship in...
Good luck, and if you need the url, I'll send you but its pretty easy to find with google. There is like one main kava forum on the internet that I know of.
From what I have read on the Kava forum, yes it can and there are several positive stories about that and a whole section of the forum dedicated to it helping with addictions.
Am I allowed to post a url to the kava forum?
It is a great resource to learn about kava. FYI the instant for me...
Definitely agree with that.
As for op!es I have been luck to never enjoy that at ALL! In fact most times, the negatives far outweighed the positives.
Ok hope we didn't hijack this tread too much..
Glad my post was somewhat helpful :)
I also used to be less discriminating about how often I used benzos, and actually have cut down over the three years I have been using them to a small extent.
About being scared, well I think it can be good to be scared of addiction, that way we can keep...
Hi Smoka,
Well, been using this way for three years now, and honestly not much tolerance has built up. I might not notice as strong a sense of relaxation at very low doses, but its enough to help with sleep etc. So nothing much to complain about in that department.
Sometimes I have taken like...
Ugh, doesn't sound fun... I haven't ever taken enough benzos for long enough to experience much withdrawals so never had to taper, and try to keep my use down to once or twice a week. Its been working fine for three years now, hope it remains that way.
Good morning! (running on 3 hours of sleep...
@nameofuser11:
Set a reasonable limit. Hell fucking make it like buying cold medicine where they swipe your id and you can't get a bunch. But we know this isn't about logic or public safety. It's about money and control.
@nameofuser11:
AKA are such a bunch of fucking capitalist traitors. The liquor lobby has a lot of money in this as well.
@MorfineOrfan:
The major plain leaf companies and the AKA are the ones lobbying against 7 and the other semi-sythetic derivatives, mgm this that and the other. We all know the chemist are just gonna mess with the scaffolding of the compounds and come out with new and even better semi-sythetic alkoloids of kratom. They are already playing with cats-claw
@MorfineOrfan:
@moai just asked chatgpeetea and it looks like plain leaf kratom is safe, they arent banning it. Just 7-Hydroxymitragynine, MGM15 ,16 , and pseudoindoxyl
@MorfineOrfan:
Wait... @moai they are federally banning plain leaf kratom too???
@moai:
@MorphineOrfan how fucking stupid is this shit. We better see some new shit come out, I’m most upset about banning regular kratom because really? Millions of people have got off hard opioids with it. They must want everyone on methadone instead.
@Gulp2788:
If bans were done to logic so much of what is illegal now would end up prescription only and I think the powers that be react faster than they think... if they think at all
@MorfineOrfan:
They aren't specifically targeting SR and 7oh
@MorfineOrfan:
@RiftChems well sr-17018 is an orphine analogue after all, and they are banning all orphines so that makes sense. Orphines are spiking the OD death rates majorly these past few months.
@AlHoffman69:
CANDYMAN ramnemnber thta is will be conme relevenaent soon 🤑
@RiftChems:
crazy they are banning SR17018 at the same time. they know what theyre doing.
@nameofuser11:
The ban of 7oh is gonna have a lot of people needing help soon. Assuming they do ban instead of regulate like they should
@AlHoffman69:
shout out to all our vets and citizens this is our day of pride love all of ya 🌭
@st1ckyf1ng4z:
Happy Independence Day my fellow DBG Americans!