Anyone with AP-237 AP-238 Dipyanone? (New here btw)

St00pz

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Some of you might recognize my similar from another forum

Anyone have these or anything medium strength opioid RCs or stuff available in the early 2020s and so on. I prefer something I can smoke but def not a deal breaker.

Potentially even Ethyl-Iodo-Tianeptine

I just bought some damn tianeptine sodium and that makes me feel dirty but the other iodo stuff is quite good. I'm cool with 2map but have never tried the og buccinizine. Also general showing me the ropes type stuff. Basically the ropes to this specific forum. I'm not new to RCs or the general process.
 
Decent opioids are not easy to come by anymore. It seems all I ever find is odsmt or the garbage zenes. 7-hydroxymitragynine is closer in feel to AP-237 than any rc I've seen recently.
 
St00pz said:
Some of you might recognize my similar from another forum

Anyone have these or anything medium strength opioid RCs or stuff available in the early 2020s and so on. I prefer something I can smoke but def not a deal breaker.

Potentially even Ethyl-Iodo-Tianeptine

I just bought some damn tianeptine sodium and that makes me feel dirty but the other iodo stuff is quite good. I'm cool with 2map but have never tried the og buccinizine. Also general showing me the ropes type stuff. Basically the ropes to this specific forum. I'm not new to RCs or the general process.
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I was/am a big dipy-kinda guy. Seemed to be balanced in all the ways I needed it to be — hope someone chimes in. Have yet to try that form of tianeptine though, will have to do a little research. Good luck!
 
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