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Hi everyone,

So compared to a few years ago (or so it feels) it seems like there's very few us-us domestic options for magazines focusing on mescaline-like compounds. The more reliable international sources, among those I've looked through, tend to have very high minimums for the substance or the order total (mostly the former)

I'm pretty reticent to maket a large order for something I'm unlikely to read more than a few times, especially from a new, non-local source, so hoping someone might be able to suggest some options.

It's one of the top remaining compound families on my bucket list!

As a side note, if anyone is aware of any z-drug like derivatives (see my list at the end here) also available in 5-15x reading sessions amounts. Needless to say, i would of course go for more of a sampler (1-3x escaline Derivatives, 2-4x of the others) so it's worth the time and cost of sending it.


Less common basics
• Cloxazolam
• Remimazolam

-plone Compounds:
• Lorediplon
• Fasiplon
• Divaplon
• Ocinaplon
• Taniplon

-clone Associated Compounds:
• Pagoclone
• Pazinaclone
• Suproclone
Suriclone

-Idem (Imidazopyridine) Associated Compounds
Necopidem
• Saripidem
• Alpidem

mixed Class:
• SX-3228 (Zapizine)
• Viqualine
• Pipequaline
• Gedocarnil
• Abecarnil
• Ro48 -6791
• QH-II-66
• L-838,417
• SL651498
 
Would love some new mescaline analogs. I guess 3C-P would be the closest atm
 
Cheesus said:
Hi everyone,

So compared to a few years ago (or so it feels) it seems like there's very few us-us domestic options for magazines focusing on mescaline-like compounds. The more reliable international sources, among those I've looked through, tend to have very high minimums for the substance or the order total (mostly the former)

I'm pretty reticent to maket a large order for something I'm unlikely to read more than a few times, especially from a new, non-local source, so hoping someone might be able to suggest some options.

It's one of the top remaining compound families on my bucket list!

As a side note, if anyone is aware of any z-drug like derivatives (see my list at the end here) also available in 5-15x reading sessions amounts. Needless to say, i would of course go for more of a sampler (1-3x escaline Derivatives, 2-4x of the others) so it's worth the time and cost of sending it.


Less common basics
• Cloxazolam
• Remimazolam

-plone Compounds:
• Lorediplon
• Fasiplon
• Divaplon
• Ocinaplon
• Taniplon

-clone Associated Compounds:
• Pagoclone
• Pazinaclone
• Suproclone
Suriclone

-Idem (Imidazopyridine) Associated Compounds
Necopidem
• Saripidem
• Alpidem

mixed Class:
• SX-3228 (Zapizine)
• Viqualine
• Pipequaline
• Gedocarnil
• Abecarnil
• Ro48 -6791
• QH-II-66
• L-838,417
• SL651498
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I don’t know of any analog sources, but Rocky has the original. It’s also relatively easy to do an extraction if you have some cacti and a little chemistry knowledge. It’s a pretty straightforward acid/base extraction .
 
ochemdim said:
I don’t know of any analog sources, but Rocky has the original. It’s also relatively easy to do an extraction if you have some cacti and a little chemistry knowledge. It’s a pretty straightforward acid/base extraction .
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Appreciate the pointer!

Now if only there were more z-drug Derivatives... Pretty sure pagoclone was around for a while, but that's basically the only one that comes to mind right off the bat

I've always been a huge proponent of zaleplon (despite it's rather low potency compared to zolpidem) as it simply doesn't cause tolerance (in me anyway), never leaves a hangover, and allows for short nap-like sleep sessions
 
ochemdim said:
I don’t know of any analog sources, but Rocky has the original. It’s also relatively easy to do an extraction if you have some cacti and a little chemistry knowledge. It’s a pretty straightforward acid/base extraction .
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Yay! Yep saw some very reasonable prices for the "real thing", thanks for the pointer

I'd still love to check out some of the more visual, shorter acting, and perhaps less head-fucking analogs (sometimes you don't want an epic mystic experience but just to see some cool visual 'illusions').

Def seems like those aren't around anymore - at least not for basic customer levels of pricing/quantity
 
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