N-Methyl-Cyclazodone (NMC)

I just re-read that post. I’m sorry you reacted that way, I hate it when something turns out to be a letdown when I’ve gotten my hopes up for it to be awesome. I think Umbrella has better quality control for some of their products than others. I’ve never had a great experience from any of their caps, and I’ve tried a few. Also, a group of researchers sent out their adamax to be fully analyzed, and results came back with no adamax detected. Thankfully, their cycla has always worked for me (and my brain chemistry is difficult bc of necessary rx meds), so I’m content to stick with them for that product.

My N-Methyl has been stuck at customs for over 3 weeks, so Euronootropics is doing a reship via Fwdex.
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Not sure how or why I tried to reply and hijacked your whole comment, I'm new here lol. But was the NMC from euro-nootropics legit?

NarcoticsAnon said:

Not sure how or why I tried to reply and hijacked your whole comment, I'm new here lol. But was the NMC from euro-nootropics legit?

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Yep. They run out SO fast, but the customer service is great. And NMC absolutely hits differently than the regular version - my dose of that is way lower. Umbrella has also been amazing for me in terms of service and product quality. Prices are high, but it’s domestic and they run promos sometimes. The automatic 20% off $200+ purchase is always offered, which helps a ton.

MaggieRose said:

Yep. They run out SO fast, but the customer service is great. And NMC absolutely hits differently than the regular version - my dose of that is way lower. Umbrella has also been amazing for me in terms of service and product quality. Prices are high, but it’s domestic and they run promos sometimes. The automatic 20% off $200+ purchase is always offered, which helps a ton.

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I am considering trying the regular from umbrella - how does it compare in subjective effects to the standard functional pharms and RC's? can you compare/contrast it with any of mph, 4f, amph, 4me?

You are talking about Excelsior - my favorite dang preworkout of all time ! I have also been on the hunt for whatever they used to put in the stuff IYKYK
The stuff is amazing but new batches have been pretty weak and missing the magic that the old ones had

redbeard112 said:

I am considering trying the regular from umbrella - how does it compare in subjective effects to the standard functional pharms and RC's? can you compare/contrast it with any of mph, 4f, amph, 4me?

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Regular cycla is hella functional for me and helps with alertness. Sometimes the NMC makes my heart race a little, which I hate. As for the other standards, cycla is slower to work but worth it in in the end.

Bigfish529 said:

You are talking about Excelsior - my favorite dang preworkout of all time ! I have also been on the hunt for whatever they used to put in the stuff IYKYK
The stuff is amazing but new batches have been pretty weak and missing the magic that the old ones had

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Yesss! Lol same here, I was on the hunt for years on what was in excelsior. While on the hunt is actually how I stumbled across this forum. So found this awesome place at least. But man, wish I could find that secret sauce though. Got scammed many times buying 3-fma and never getting it, thinking that was the ingredient. But recent years hearing of these new leads of NMC being the ingredient. Maybe someday we'll find it .

Thank you! Yeah it's frustrating when you get something and it's underwhelming. But wow it sounds like most of their caps are bunk, good to know. But at least the Cycla was legit and you had a good experience with it. But I hope you ended up getting your N-Methyl from Euronootropics. Shipping has been delayed around the world lately.

I just re-read that post. I’m sorry you reacted that way, I hate it when something turns out to be a letdown when I’ve gotten my hopes up for it to be awesome. I think Umbrella has better quality control for some of their products than others. I’ve never had a great experience from any of their caps, and I’ve tried a few. Also, a group of researchers sent out their adamax to be fully analyzed, and results came back with no adamax detected. Thankfully, their cycla has always worked for me (and my brain chemistry is difficult bc of necessary rx meds), so I’m content to stick with them for that product.

My N-Methyl has been stuck at customs for over 3 weeks, so Euronootropics is doing a reship via Fwdex.
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Any updates on NMC or PPAP ?

What u actually want is a nice blend of amphetamines and m3th..try addyexpert

Lstnfunpaintr said:

Any updates on NMC or PPAP ?

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I'm a regular customer at Umbrellalabs.is for their nootropics, peptides, and other research compounds - I mainly try to stay stocked on:

• Racetams (Phenylpiracetam Carphedon & Hydrazide, Oxiracetam & Fasoracetam being my favorite regulars).
• Afinils (Flmodafinil, Modafiendz / N-Methyl-Flmodafinil) for days off Adderall to keep my energy up if phenylpiracetam isn't enough (great combination).
• Memantine 5mg capsules, which I take at night to mitigate Adderall Tolerance. It's been very effective for me at lowering and preventing amphetamine tolerance, and keeping my Rx effective.

I routinely follow up on Umbrella's stock of several products, including NMC & PPAP:

• N-Methyl-Cyclazodone: this has been almost always out of stock. Currently, this seems to have fallen off their listings entirely.
• PPAP Hcl: available in 60ct of 5mg capsules (300mg total), 30ml glycol-based solution (10mg/ml), and 1g-5g pure powder jar.
• BPAP (bonus!): stronger than PPAP, and available in 60ct of 100mcg capsules (6mg total) and as a 30ml glycol-based solution at 100mcg/ml.

Hope this helps!

sadophyte said:

Dont have a source but im also extremely interested, replying to gain traction

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Any luck finding that ? I've been looking but most of the vendors have that out of stock

Bigfish529 said:

What u actually want is a nice blend of amphetamines and m3th..try addyexpert

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You're right! Addyexpert did catch my eye. Thanks for your help/direction.

I_Main_Soraka said:

I'm a regular customer at Umbrellalabs.is for their nootropics, peptides, and other research compounds - I mainly try to stay stocked on:

• Racetams (Phenylpiracetam Carphedon & Hydrazide, Oxiracetam & Fasoracetam being my favorite regulars).
• Afinils (Flmodafinil, Modafiendz / N-Methyl-Flmodafinil) for days off Adderall to keep my energy up if phenylpiracetam isn't enough (great combination).
• Memantine 5mg capsules, which I take at night to mitigate Adderall Tolerance. It's been very effective for me at lowering and preventing amphetamine tolerance, and keeping my Rx effective.

I routinely follow up on Umbrella's stock of several products, including NMC & PPAP:

• N-Methyl-Cyclazodone: this has been almost always out of stock. Currently, this seems to have fallen off their listings entirely.
• PPAP Hcl: available in 60ct of 5mg capsules (300mg total), 30ml glycol-based solution (10mg/ml), and 1g-5g pure powder jar.
• BPAP (bonus!): stronger than PPAP, and available in 60ct of 100mcg capsules (6mg total) and as a 30ml glycol-based solution at 100mcg/ml.

Hope this helps! i! are all of these actually effective ? willi

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I_Main_Soraka said:

I'm a regular customer at Umbrellalabs.is for their nootropics, peptides, and other research compounds - I mainly try to stay stocked on:

• Racetams (Phenylpiracetam Carphedon & Hydrazide, Oxiracetam & Fasoracetam being my favorite regulars).
• Afinils (Flmodafinil, Modafiendz / N-Methyl-Flmodafinil) for days off Adderall to keep my energy up if phenylpiracetam isn't enough (great combination).
• Memantine 5mg capsules, which I take at night to mitigate Adderall Tolerance. It's been very effective for me at lowering and preventing amphetamine tolerance, and keeping my Rx effective.

I routinely follow up on Umbrella's stock of several products, including NMC & PPAP:

• N-Methyl-Cyclazodone: this has been almost always out of stock. Currently, this seems to have fallen off their listings entirely.
• PPAP Hcl: available in 60ct of 5mg capsules (300mg total), 30ml glycol-based solution (10mg/ml), and 1g-5g pure powder jar.
• BPAP (bonus!): stronger than PPAP, and available in 60ct of 100mcg capsules (6mg total) and as a 30ml glycol-based solution at 100mcg/ml.

Hope this helps!

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hi! i really want to try some of these, but they are expensive apparently. which are the most effective and potent that you would reccomend ? its gotta be strong to be worth it for me, high stim tolerance.

redbeard112 said:

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hi! i really want to try some of these, but they are expensive apparently. which are the most effective and potent that you would reccomend ? its gotta be strong to be worth it for me, high stim tolerance.

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With a high stim tolerance, Racetams aren’t likely to do a whole lot for you. Personally, Cycla and NM Cycla were the best options for me. I think I’m done with Umbrella - shipping has slowed WAY down, customer service is much less responsive, and after doing the conversions, the NMC from euronootropics was more affordable even being shipping internationally. They also carry regular Cycla, which I haven’t tried yet, but I did order the last time I got some NM.