Bromonordiazepam – Desalkylgidazepam!???

Jayplug77 said:
Not a problem at all, slight misunderstanding. I was talking about the equipment let’s say, to do it myself make it safer for personal use
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To make a volumetric solution like I'm talking about? Mason jars, some 30ml amber vials to pour your goods in when theyre finished, a magnetic plate stirrer (like 30-40 USD), PG, and a nice 3ML syringe to help you transfer from mason jar to the little amber vials. All of that could be delivered (depending on where you live) tomorrow.

First, pour the amount of PG in the mason jar). I always warm my PG in a pot of water till it hits 95 degrees Fahrenheit. Then pop in your specified amount of powder (lets say its a gram so 1000 mg) and your amount of solvent (in this case let's say 150 ML of food grade PG). Then put it on the mag stirrer and let it rip. It should pretty easily dissolve. And if it doesn't add more PG or another warm water bath. That gives you a ratio of 6.6 MG per ML, if you kept the PG at 150ML. Then you can dose by syringe and be super accurate. Sometimes I need to do a few warm water baths to get ALL the little specs of powder dissolved.

Is that what you're asking?
 
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tiquanunderwood said:
To make a volumetric solution like I'm talking about? Mason jars, some 30ml amber vials to pour your goods in when theyre finished, a magnetic plate stirrer (like 30-40 USD), PG, and a nice 3ML syringe to help you transfer from mason jar to the little amber vials. All of that could be delivered (depending on where you live) tomorrow.

First, pour the amount of PG in the mason jar). I always warm my PG in a pot of water till it hits 95 degrees Fahrenheit. Then pop in your specified amount of powder (lets say its a gram so 1000 mg) and your amount of solvent (in this case let's say 150 ML of food grade PG). Then put it on the mag stirrer and let it rip. It should pretty easily dissolve. And if it doesn't add more PG or another warm water bath. That gives you a ratio of 6.6 MG per ML, if you kept the PG at 150ML. Then you can dose by syringe and be super accurate. Sometimes I need to do a few warm water baths to get ALL the little specs of powder dissolved.

Is that what you're asking?
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Thank you for the explanation because someone will undoubtedly benefit, but I speaking of actual presses.
 
tiquanunderwood said:
Just message me and I can give you exact instructions on how to make a solution, it'll save you a lot. (if that's allowed) If it's not, there's plenty of resources out there.

No, I would never suggest anyone do that. Too many things can go wrong. The only medical literature study I can find says 87 hours, while I'm pretty sure one V@lium's metabolites (forget which one) is almost 200. It's not quite that long, but it's long. I even think it's longer than the 87 in the study. And while it's not as blackout prone like clobro or bromazolam, it could definitely be for a non-tolerant individual.

And what I meant was, after you take v@lium lets say for recreational purposes, you might feel the anti-anxiety, muscle relaxing, etc. effects but they usually wear off acutely around the 4-5 hour mark. However, that compound is still in your body for another 3 days.

I saw dude above actually just responded to you. And he said everything right. If you're going down this lane, either purchase a magnetic stirrer, some mason jars, 30ml amber vials, and some PG; or buy premade solutions. Though, you didn't see the amount the vendor put in those. And I'm almost sure you don't work in a lab, so I would highly doubt you have the ability to accurately measure 6mg. Like yeah, there's a little wiggle room with this one since its not so potent and hypnotic, but I would never try to dose on scale found at a store or on the popular online retailer. I hate to even suggest this, but at least weigh 50mg of powder, then seperate into two, then again, and again. But you still don't know the exact MG you're getting.

Plus, I think making solutions is fun. This one dissolves best at 5mg per ml, but I have it in 6.6mg per ml. Just took a couple water baths and maybe 25 minutes on the mag stirrer. That's in 100% PG.

I'm glad you're asking questions because one mistake and this could impact your life very negatively.
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so you have to make a solution just to use it in powder form?? im not interested in liquid solutions just powder form doses.
 
davidbanner62 said:
so you have to make a solution just to use it in powder form?? im not interested in liquid solutions just powder form doses.
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Depends on what you’re looking to weigh. If it’s something that could cause an effect under 5m-g (@lp, cl0br0, etc.) then id recommend investing in a m-g sc@le (1.0 m-g minimum) or better yet, an analytical balance (0.1 m-g minimum). They go for several hundred to thousands depending on the sensitivity and accuracy.
Buying second hand could do and save money I’ve heard, but have it calibrated.
If you’re looking at something that you need 50 m-g or more, a 0.01 (10 m-g) sc@le would probably suffice, but no guarantees and that could be risky…
Basically, volumetric is the cheapest, safest and easiest for sure.
 
ochemdim said:
Depends on what you’re looking to weigh. If it’s something that could cause an effect under 5m-g (@lp, cl0br0, etc.) then id recommend investing in a m-g sc@le (1.0 m-g minimum) or better yet, an analytical balance (0.1 m-g minimum). They go for several hundred to thousands depending on the sensitivity and accuracy.
Buying second hand could do and save money I’ve heard, but have it calibrated.
If you’re looking at something that you need 50 m-g or more, a 0.01 (10 m-g) sc@le would probably suffice, but no guarantees and that could be risky…
Basically, volumetric is the cheapest, safest and easiest for sure.
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they have pefectly fine
ochemdim said:
Depends on what you’re looking to weigh. If it’s something that could cause an effect under 5m-g (@lp, cl0br0, etc.) then id recommend investing in a m-g sc@le (1.0 m-g minimum) or better yet, an analytical balance (0.1 m-g minimum). They go for several hundred to thousands depending on the sensitivity and accuracy.
Buying second hand could do and save money I’ve heard, but have it calibrated.
If you’re looking at something that you need 50 m-g or more, a 0.01 (10 m-g) sc@le would probably suffice, but no guarantees and that could be risky…
Basically, volumetric is the cheapest, safest and easiest for sure.
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ok thanks for your advise I will indeed look into investing in a scale as such, but would you say a high dosage for this chem in powder form would be somewhere under 5mg?
 
davidbanner62 said:
they have pefectly fine

ok thanks for your advise I will indeed look into investing in a scale as such, but would you say a high dosage for this chem in powder form would be somewhere under 5mg?
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No worries man!
No, that wouldn’t be high. The typical conversion is 6 pages bromonor =~ 10 pages v@lıum. So if you have a decent tolly then you might need double digits to start. Keep in mind the long half life though as it’ll build up in someone’s system if they read a lot of pages day after day. Someone more knowledgeable about tapering with it can speak on that if tapering is the goal.
If you have other reading goals, take long breaks between reads because it’ll stick around
 
ochemdim said:
No worries man!
No, that wouldn’t be high. The typical conversion is 6 pages bromonor =~ 10 pages v@lıum. So if you have a decent tolly then you might need double digits to start. Keep in mind the long half life though as it’ll build up in someone’s system if they read a lot of pages day after day. Someone more knowledgeable about tapering with it can speak on that if tapering is the goal.
If you have other reading goals, take long breaks between reads because it’ll stick arou
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ochemdim said:
No worries man!
No, that wouldn’t be high. The typical conversion is 6 pages bromonor =~ 10 pages v@lıum. So if you have a decent tolly then you might need double digits to start. Keep in mind the long half life though as it’ll build up in someone’s system if they read a lot of pages day after day. Someone more knowledgeable about tapering with it can speak on that if tapering is the goal.
If you have other reading goals, take long breaks between reads because it’ll stick around
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oh ok, u seem to be very knowledgeable about this subject unlike me lol I do have one more question for you though, have you heard of, or just know any information (maybe dosage info) about new this new benzo derivative I've been seeing called "Pynazolam" by any chance?

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davidbanner62 said:
oh ok, u seem to be very knowledgeable about this subject unlike me lol I do have one more question for you though, have you heard of, or just know any information (maybe dosage info) about new this new benzo derivative I've been seeing called "Pynazolam" by any chance?

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All good man, everyone has different passions. Anyone can learn about ch3m if they’re into it.
I don’t have any info on it but can look into it. At first glance it looks like it’s just pyr@z with a nitro group for bromide substitution. Evidently it was created by the same ch3mist who discovered pyr@z.
 
oh ok, what im interested in and currently looking for is any benzo rc in powder form that is currently on the market and fairly potent, something that has a high dosage under 5mg. Do you think pynazolam fits in that category? Or do you know of any other benzo rc's that fits into that category that you could recommend me? p.s. sorry for all these questions lol
 
davidbanner62 said:
oh ok, what im interested in and currently looking for is any benzo rc in powder form that is currently on the market and fairly potent, something that has a high dosage under 5mg. Do you think pynazolam fits in that category? Or do you know of any other benzo rc's that fits into that category that you could recommend me? p.s. sorry for all these questions lol
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My fairly potent and yours are very different most likely. But if you want serious potency out of an RC benzo, go with phenaz/clobro. If you are for some reason specifically looking for an RC benzo that has therapeutic benefit around that 5mg mark, I’d go for Rlmazafone or Nifoxipam. Bromozolam would be great also.
 
davidbanner62 said:
oh ok, what im interested in and currently looking for is any benzo rc in powder form that is currently on the market and fairly potent, something that has a high dosage under 5mg. Do you think pynazolam fits in that category? Or do you know of any other benzo rc's that fits into that category that you could recommend me? p.s. sorry for all these questions lol
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I couldn’t tell you without seeing any sort of pharmacology studies. I’m not sure if there were any done on it (it was discovered in the 70’s so maybe there’s a study or two somewhere). I’m not an expert in pharmacology anyways.
But a pretty recent article predicted it to be relatively strong, but it’s just a prediction using QSAR which is a technique used in drūg discovery that basically uses other similar structures and their targets to predict what the new compound will do, potential toxicity, etc.
 
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