Avizafone - WHAT?

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So I have a history of benzodiazepine abuse, so I wasn't too keen on buying benzos to keep around.

I managed to stick some vials of avizafone in one of my disso+stimulant orders, because it's never a bad idea to keep benzodiazepines around if you're gonna be fucking with that stuff. I never even intended to use it.

So I did a little too much 3-HO-PCP too late the other evening. No big deal; I was actually enjoying myself, but I needed to go to bed so I could get up for work in the morning.

I decide it's a good idea to dip into the avizafone, so I don't get myself into any trouble. I used to mess with all sorts of ultra potent benzos, and was even dependent on Flubromazolam at one point, so I really didn't think that 30mg of Valium would do anything but tone down the dissos.

I could not have been more wrong. Not only did it completely get rid of any traces of the 3-HO-PCP within half an hour or so, but I had an ABSOLUTE BLAST. More fun than I've ever had on benzos, which is usually more of a neutral, relaxing experience.

I totally understand why this drug is administered in emergency IM pens for nerve gas exposure.

What the actual fuck? Valium is the best benzo of all time?
 
Greenbeans448 said:
lol, really? I’m as surprised as you are
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Right?

In my shower before bed, I was uncontrollably laughing. I was so happy.

Totally could stand straight and think straight. Felt like a piece of silk, though.

I find it hilarious that I never bothered with Valium because "that one's boring." Everything is better than that one.
 
Despite Avizafone being a pro-drug for Diazepam; it without a doubt has its own effect profile

Positive Differences over Diazepam:
  • Less sedating / over tired body load
  • Less foggy or amnesic
  • Flattens emotions about 50% less.
  • More positive headspace than diazepam (but wouldn't say its euphoric).
  • Water soluble; can be administered IN/IM/IV easily for emergency (onset still not immediate)

Negative Differences over Diazepam:

  • Not as sleep inducing when needed
  • Not as great for heavy physical relaxation
  • Potency seems like 15-20mg Avizafone = 10mg Diazepam
  • If you need to "blot-out the world", high doses required.

That's my personal subjective take as a lifetime benzo enthusiast (and long time kindling/PAWS/sobriety well sprinkled in). Keep in mind all Diazepam tablets are not created equal. Avizafone can at least be measured tho may vary lab to lab.
 
thatguy69 said:
So I have a history of benzodiazepine abuse, so I wasn't too keen on buying benzos to keep around.

I managed to stick some vials of avizafone in one of my disso+stimulant orders, because it's never a bad idea to keep benzodiazepines around if you're gonna be fucking with that stuff. I never even intended to use it.

So I did a little too much 3-HO-PCP too late the other evening. No big deal; I was actually enjoying myself, but I needed to go to bed so I could get up for work in the morning.

I decide it's a good idea to dip into the avizafone, so I don't get myself into any trouble. I used to mess with all sorts of ultra potent benzos, and was even dependent on Flubromazolam at one point, so I really didn't think that 30mg of Valium would do anything but tone down the dissos.

I could not have been more wrong. Not only did it completely get rid of any traces of the 3-HO-PCP within half an hour or so, but I had an ABSOLUTE BLAST. More fun than I've ever had on benzos, which is usually more of a neutral, relaxing experience.

I totally understand why this drug is administered in emergency IM pens for nerve gas exposure.

What the actual fuck? Valium is the best benzo of all time?
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It's an oldie but a goodie. Mommies little helper for a reason, along with some good ol' amphe+amine. I think it got a bad name back in the day and became much less prevalent, after doctors were handing them out along with speed to housewives like candy. That and lor∆zepam/∆tivan have always been my favorites. I get way too much of a hangover from just about any others I've tried, pharmaceutical or research.
 
thatguy69 said:
So I have a history of benzodiazepine abuse, so I wasn't too keen on buying benzos to keep around.

I managed to stick some vials of avizafone in one of my disso+stimulant orders, because it's never a bad idea to keep benzodiazepines around if you're gonna be fucking with that stuff. I never even intended to use it.

So I did a little too much 3-HO-PCP too late the other evening. No big deal; I was actually enjoying myself, but I needed to go to bed so I could get up for work in the morning.

I decide it's a good idea to dip into the avizafone, so I don't get myself into any trouble. I used to mess with all sorts of ultra potent benzos, and was even dependent on Flubromazolam at one point, so I really didn't think that 30mg of Valium would do anything but tone down the dissos.

I could not have been more wrong. Not only did it completely get rid of any traces of the 3-HO-PCP within half an hour or so, but I had an ABSOLUTE BLAST. More fun than I've ever had on benzos, which is usually more of a neutral, relaxing experience.

I totally understand why this drug is administered in emergency IM pens for nerve gas exposure.

What the actual fuck? Valium is the best benzo of all time?
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Kpins are imo, but Valium is a close second, you just need a lot of it.
 
dichlorodavid said:
Despite Avizafone being a pro-drug for Diazepam; it without a doubt has its own effect profile

Positive Differences over Diazepam:
  • Less sedating / over tired body load
  • Less foggy or amnesic
  • Flattens emotions about 50% less.
  • More positive headspace than diazepam (but wouldn't say its euphoric).
  • Water soluble; can be administered IN/IM/IV easily for emergency (onset still not immediate)

Negative Differences over Diazepam:

  • Not as sleep inducing when needed
  • Not as great for heavy physical relaxation
  • Potency seems like 15-20mg Avizafone = 10mg Diazepam
  • If you need to "blot-out the world", high doses required.

That's my personal subjective take as a lifetime benzo enthusiast (and long time kindling/PAWS/sobriety well sprinkled in). Keep in mind all Diazepam tablets are not created equal. Avizafone can at least be measured tho may vary lab to lab.
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This is a very good description. So maybe Valium itself is rather boring.

Avizafone, on the other hand is FIRE.

If I really want to sleep, I have other benzos. A good 1mg bromazolam gives me a good nights sleep.

I just wish I could find APINACA (AKB48). That's better than weed, imo.
 
dichlorodavid said:
Despite Avizafone being a pro-drug for Diazepam; it without a doubt has its own effect profile

Positive Differences over Diazepam:
  • Less sedating / over tired body load
  • Less foggy or amnesic
  • Flattens emotions about 50% less.
  • More positive headspace than diazepam (but wouldn't say its euphoric).
  • Water soluble; can be administered IN/IM/IV easily for emergency (onset still not immediate)

Negative Differences over Diazepam:

  • Not as sleep inducing when needed
  • Not as great for heavy physical relaxation
  • Potency seems like 15-20mg Avizafone = 10mg Diazepam
  • If you need to "blot-out the world", high doses required.

That's my personal subjective take as a lifetime benzo enthusiast (and long time kindling/PAWS/sobriety well sprinkled in). Keep in mind all Diazepam tablets are not created equal. Avizafone can at least be measured tho may vary lab to lab.
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What else have you tried that you can compare to ? Have my eyes on it and you never know when things go out of production
 
EShotterset said:
What else have you tried that you can compare to ? Have my eyes on it and you never know when things go out of production
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Hell it might be easier to tell you what I haven't tried now that I think of it.

Imaginary Similarities:
  • If clonazepam had 50% more mental sedation, and 30% more body load.
  • If alprazolam were more drawn out (smoother dose reponse), with a cleaner headspace, and no initial tired phase
  • FlubromazePAM that was less hypnotic and more anxiolytic
  • I wont even bring bromazolam into the picture, to me its a depression inducing, uncomfortable hypnotic, that doesnt help much for anxiety. IMO

General Summary:
  • Mostly imagine diazepam with less fog during and after. More forgiving on the mood and less amnesic. Also slowly lulls you into "its time to sleep". No surprise naps

I'm really on this bullet point list thing today....
 
EShotterset said:
What else have you tried that you can compare to ? Have my eyes on it and you never know when things go out of production
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Reminds me of clonzepam but with more muscle relaxation. Flualprazolam is shorter, but it is similar as well; Valium doesn't make me go on buying sprees like Flualp does though.

I admittedly dipped into some Nifoxipam the other night. Exactly 1mg, but that shit is supposed to be extremely long, and delusions of sobriety are a thing with benzos. So, take all of this with a grain of salt.

I will not be dipping into the Nifoxipam again any time soon, if ever. My mom actually asked me if I was drunk randomly the other night. I didn't even want it; I just added it to my cart to put myself over the minimum limit.
 
touronstage said:
It wasn't the 1mg nifoxipam. It was the avi!z.
You don't feel 1mg nifox
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No I haven't touched anymore avizafone, and I'm still barred out. It's Wednesday, and I took a sick day today from work. It might be still getting stronger. I'm drinking caffeine to stay awake.

Avizafone was certainly involved, but I think I'm pretty in tune with my body. I could feel it come on, and I could feel it go away. This is not going away.

It is also possible that despite it being seemingly very much in solution, that I got a hotspot and the dosage wasn't 1mg.

Heeding your advice, I will not be touching the avizafone any time soon at all, too. That way we'll know.

Then, I will do exactly 10mg of it at some distant point in the future and see if I end up with more really-long benzo issues.
 
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thatguy69 said:
No I haven't touched anymore avizafone, and I'm still barred out. It's Wednesday, and I took a sick day today from work. It might be still getting stronger. I'm drinking caffeine to stay awake.

Avizafone was certainly involved, but I think I'm pretty in tune with my body. I could feel it come on, and I could feel it go away. This is not going away.

It is also possible that despite it being seemingly very much in solution, that I got a hotspot and the dosage wasn't 1mg.

Heeding your advice, I will not be touching the avizafone any time soon at all, too. That way we'll know.

Then, I will do exactly 10mg of it at some distant point in the future and see if I end up with more really-long benzo issues.
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I just read somewhere else someone was experiencing an insane delay with nifoxipam and had to call in sick to work unless that was your thread also I was reading.
 
trinitropcp said:
It's an oldie but a goodie. Mommies little helper for a reason, along with some good ol' amphe+amine. I think it got a bad name back in the day and became much less prevalent, after doctors were handing them out along with speed to housewives like candy. That and lor∆zepam/∆tivan have always been my favorites. I get way too much of a hangover from just about any others I've tried, pharmaceutical or research.
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Pretty sure "mother's little helpers", or at least the ones the Stones were referring to, were Miltown/meprobamate which I would kill to get a hold of.
 
sporidicus said:
Pretty sure "mother's little helpers", or at least the ones the Stones were referring to, were Miltown/meprobamate which I would kill to get a hold of.
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You prob already know this but cares o'pro doll metabolizes to that
 
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