Avizafone - WHAT?

Greenbeans448 said:

lol, really? I’m as surprised as you are

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• Less sedating / over tired body load
• Less foggy or amnesic
• Flattens emotions about 50% less.
• More positive headspace than diazepam (but wouldn't say its euphoric).
• Water soluble; can be administered IN/IM/IV easily for emergency (onset still not immediate)

• Not as sleep inducing when needed
• Not as great for heavy physical relaxation
• Potency seems like 15-20mg Avizafone = 10mg Diazepam
• If you need to "blot-out the world", high doses required.

thatguy69 said:

So I have a history of benzodiazepine abuse, so I wasn't too keen on buying benzos to keep around.

I managed to stick some vials of avizafone in one of my disso+stimulant orders, because it's never a bad idea to keep benzodiazepines around if you're gonna be fucking with that stuff. I never even intended to use it.

So I did a little too much 3-HO-PCP too late the other evening. No big deal; I was actually enjoying myself, but I needed to go to bed so I could get up for work in the morning.

I decide it's a good idea to dip into the avizafone, so I don't get myself into any trouble. I used to mess with all sorts of ultra potent benzos, and was even dependent on Flubromazolam at one point, so I really didn't think that 30mg of Valium would do anything but tone down the dissos.

I could not have been more wrong. Not only did it completely get rid of any traces of the 3-HO-PCP within half an hour or so, but I had an ABSOLUTE BLAST. More fun than I've ever had on benzos, which is usually more of a neutral, relaxing experience.

I totally understand why this drug is administered in emergency IM pens for nerve gas exposure.

What the actual fuck? Valium is the best benzo of all time?

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thatguy69 said:

So I have a history of benzodiazepine abuse, so I wasn't too keen on buying benzos to keep around.

I managed to stick some vials of avizafone in one of my disso+stimulant orders, because it's never a bad idea to keep benzodiazepines around if you're gonna be fucking with that stuff. I never even intended to use it.

So I did a little too much 3-HO-PCP too late the other evening. No big deal; I was actually enjoying myself, but I needed to go to bed so I could get up for work in the morning.

I decide it's a good idea to dip into the avizafone, so I don't get myself into any trouble. I used to mess with all sorts of ultra potent benzos, and was even dependent on Flubromazolam at one point, so I really didn't think that 30mg of Valium would do anything but tone down the dissos.

I could not have been more wrong. Not only did it completely get rid of any traces of the 3-HO-PCP within half an hour or so, but I had an ABSOLUTE BLAST. More fun than I've ever had on benzos, which is usually more of a neutral, relaxing experience.

I totally understand why this drug is administered in emergency IM pens for nerve gas exposure.

What the actual fuck? Valium is the best benzo of all time?

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dichlorodavid said:

Despite Avizafone being a pro-drug for Diazepam; it without a doubt has its own effect profile

Positive Differences over Diazepam:

• Less sedating / over tired body load
• Less foggy or amnesic
• Flattens emotions about 50% less.
• More positive headspace than diazepam (but wouldn't say its euphoric).
• Water soluble; can be administered IN/IM/IV easily for emergency (onset still not immediate)

Negative Differences over Diazepam:

• Not as sleep inducing when needed
• Not as great for heavy physical relaxation
• Potency seems like 15-20mg Avizafone = 10mg Diazepam
• If you need to "blot-out the world", high doses required.

That's my personal subjective take as a lifetime benzo enthusiast (and long time kindling/PAWS/sobriety well sprinkled in). Keep in mind all Diazepam tablets are not created equal. Avizafone can at least be measured tho may vary lab to lab.

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dichlorodavid said:

Despite Avizafone being a pro-drug for Diazepam; it without a doubt has its own effect profile

Positive Differences over Diazepam:

• Less sedating / over tired body load
• Less foggy or amnesic
• Flattens emotions about 50% less.
• More positive headspace than diazepam (but wouldn't say its euphoric).
• Water soluble; can be administered IN/IM/IV easily for emergency (onset still not immediate)

Negative Differences over Diazepam:

• Not as sleep inducing when needed
• Not as great for heavy physical relaxation
• Potency seems like 15-20mg Avizafone = 10mg Diazepam
• If you need to "blot-out the world", high doses required.

That's my personal subjective take as a lifetime benzo enthusiast (and long time kindling/PAWS/sobriety well sprinkled in). Keep in mind all Diazepam tablets are not created equal. Avizafone can at least be measured tho may vary lab to lab.

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EShotterset said:

What else have you tried that you can compare to ? Have my eyes on it and you never know when things go out of production

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• If clonazepam had 50% more mental sedation, and 30% more body load.
• If alprazolam were more drawn out (smoother dose reponse), with a cleaner headspace, and no initial tired phase
• FlubromazePAM that was less hypnotic and more anxiolytic
• I wont even bring bromazolam into the picture, to me its a depression inducing, uncomfortable hypnotic, that doesnt help much for anxiety. IMO

• Mostly imagine diazepam with less fog during and after. More forgiving on the mood and less amnesic. Also slowly lulls you into "its time to sleep". No surprise naps

EShotterset said:

What else have you tried that you can compare to ? Have my eyes on it and you never know when things go out of production

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touronstage said:

It wasn't the 1mg nifoxipam. It was the avi!z.
You don't feel 1mg nifox

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thatguy69 said:

No I haven't touched anymore avizafone, and I'm still barred out. It's Wednesday, and I took a sick day today from work. It might be still getting stronger. I'm drinking caffeine to stay awake.

Avizafone was certainly involved, but I think I'm pretty in tune with my body. I could feel it come on, and I could feel it go away. This is not going away.

It is also possible that despite it being seemingly very much in solution, that I got a hotspot and the dosage wasn't 1mg.

Heeding your advice, I will not be touching the avizafone any time soon at all, too. That way we'll know.

Then, I will do exactly 10mg of it at some distant point in the future and see if I end up with more really-long benzo issues.

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trinitropcp said:

It's an oldie but a goodie. Mommies little helper for a reason, along with some good ol' amphe+amine. I think it got a bad name back in the day and became much less prevalent, after doctors were handing them out along with speed to housewives like candy. That and lor∆zepam/∆tivan have always been my favorites. I get way too much of a hangover from just about any others I've tried, pharmaceutical or research.

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sporidicus said:

Pretty sure "mother's little helpers", or at least the ones the Stones were referring to, were Miltown/meprobamate which I would kill to get a hold of.

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