anyone have luck finding any REAL 4mmc?

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Looking to see if anyone has had luck finding legit 4mmc? tried a few and although they were ok not what I remember. I know there are some good sources out there anyone finding it?
 
@rhodium i imagine is real and good like all their products.i haven't ordered from them in a while but I imagine he's just as good if not better
 
ordered twice from groot and both batches were fire. 125mg was pretty strong, 200mg had me rolling balls

rhodium sells fake 4mmc. multiple people have complained but he refuses to refund or make things right.
 
Oh damn good to know. Thanks! @Missingmxe
Do you have any idea about canned goods 4mmc?
no but at those prices I might do a small order to try it. his thread has a few people waiting on orders/reporting potential exit scam so I'm going to wait and see
 
Yea even with groot the latest talk doesn't seem ideal though he has credibility through the roof. I was trying to arrange a group buy and was talking with someone else. If you're interested please DM me. I can get 25g from gr8 chems in the 3-400 area
 
Yea even with groot the latest talk doesn't seem ideal though he has credibility through the roof. I was trying to arrange a group buy and was talking with someone else. If you're interested please DM me. I can get 25g from gr8 chems in the 3-400 area
i just had two packs land from groot in the last month, both 4mmc and both were good. im all set for a while now

3-400/g? that's extremely high or if you mean for 25g sounds too good to be true
 
25g for 300-400 euro plus 100$ shipping from the UK
 
Groots is still expensive though for what it is. Sure it's a rare chemical but I am unsure why that has to affect the cost of it, though that is how most business is done but in this world it's a bummer, especially when working with a budget
 
25g for 300-400 euro plus 100$ shipping from the UK
Groots is still expensive though for what it is. Sure it's a rare chemical but I am unsure why that has to affect the cost of it, though that is how most business is done but in this world it's a bummer, especially when working with a budget
and the only review of it by a member here is negative and said it doesn't feel anything like 4mmc.

sure the other sources are expensive... I'd rather pay less but if that means not getting any of the product I want then yeah I'll pay a premium to actually get it
 
Looking to see if anyone has had luck finding legit 4mmc? tried a few and although they were ok not what I remember. I know there are some good sources out there anyone finding it?

Hey!

I do have in stock, and honestly, the quality is amazing. If you're still searching, I think you'll really like it. Let me know if you'd like details!
 
Yea even with groot the latest talk doesn't seem ideal though he has credibility through the roof. I was trying to arrange a group buy and was talking with someone else. If you're interested please DM me. I can get 25g from gr8 chems in the 3-400 area
Is the gr8 place legit ?? I thought it was a scam. Every day they post an ad here. Nobody ever says anything in his thread.
 
Is the gr8 place legit ?? I thought it was a scam. Every day they post an ad here. Nobody ever says anything in his thread.
I've seen folks on some Signal groups I'm in say that gr8 is indeed legit. But I've never personally done business with them.
And yeah it is kinda odd that their thread is literally just them posting updates and discounts but NO customer ever posts in there.
 
I have an email vendor that I work with that has legit 4mmc that I believe is procured from a DN market, and it is in fact the real deal. I've tried it.

So it is out there...just hard to find someone with actual 4- Once it started becoming more rare , people began trying to pass 3- off as 4- , and now that 3- has started to get more scarce they're trying to pass 2- off as 4-.
 
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