Ramifications of multiple LLs in a row?

Has anyone had any experience with this situation, or insight into how it may impact my international ordering going forward? I'm kind of freaking out right now as after years of never recieving one I got two LLs one right after the other (original pack & reship both didn't make it through customs ), one in mid-Dec and now another in mid-Jan.

Now I know the proper protocol w/LLs--stay calm, never respond, ignore/shred, deny everything if it comes to that, etc. The thing is, this is terrible timing as I happen to have other subscriptions pending/"in the works" so to speak. Will this burn or seriously flag my addy to get two romantic overtures from the Cu5t0m5 C0bra (heh, I visualize it as that snake in their silly little PSA, sinking its fangs into packages) in such a short time? What do you all think? Obviously if/when all the stuff I have out lands I'll take a break from Int'l subscribing, but am I screwed in the meantime or no?

You may have to change to a different address as the one your using might be blacklisted

As a follow up, I have a package in that place between kustums and large distribution ctr, no LL after 3 weeks and no movement. I have experienced this before; in these cases, what do you believe is the probability of theft? I understand it’s rampant.

Pharmia said:

Has anyone had any experience with this situation, or insight into how it may impact my international ordering going forward? I'm kind of freaking out right now as after years of never recieving one I got two LLs one right after the other (original pack & reship both didn't make it through customs ), one in mid-Dec and now another in mid-Jan.

Now I know the proper protocol w/LLs--stay calm, never respond, ignore/shred, deny everything if it comes to that, etc. The thing is, this is terrible timing as I happen to have other subscriptions pending/"in the works" so to speak. Will this burn or seriously flag my addy to get two romantic overtures from the Cu5t0m5 C0bra (heh, I visualize it as that snake in their silly little PSA, sinking its fangs into packages) in such a short time? What do you all think? Obviously if/when all the stuff I have out lands I'll take a break from Int'l subscribing, but am I screwed in the meantime or no?

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Are the letters from vendors here?
The subscriptions related to vendors here, is better worded i guess...

luquitoad said:

Are the letters from vendors here?
The subscriptions related to vendors here, is better worded i guess...

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Yes. Clearly a stealth issue on their part; they're aware of it and hopefully will improve. Seems like a great vendor otherwise.

uhh.. maybe stop ordering drugs to the same address? maybe… just a thought tho

rhodium said:

uhh.. maybe stop ordering drugs to the same address? maybe… just a thought tho

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And not a bad thought at all. Really, just stick with domestic. Yeah you pay a premium but you have peace of mind AND you have your mags in days, not weeks/months. This current administration has made things a lot more difficult for int'l orders, from my what I can tell.

Other subscriptions from !nd!@ have landed just fine since, it was apparently/fortunately literally just an issue with a single v3nd0r. Mods can delete this thread if they want.

With all due respect, I don't understand the snarkiness here and everyone on here who's like, "use a different @ddy" as I don't have one, do most people? I doubt it and have heard that Pee-0h boxes are a red flag (and boxes from other carriers even more dubious for other reasons), so what is the solution then for people who are in this boat (which thankfully I'm not)? And not everyone can afford d0m3st!c for everything, those prices tend to be stratospheric.

TBH, and I realize this may not be a popular stance but it seems like many people on here are somewhat excessively paranoid and unwelcoming/unpleasant these days compared to the past. I'll admit I've been a little incautious sometimes (only trying to be helpful to others) and will fix that going forward but come on, if we can barely even post anything other than "yeah this landed" in the interest of 0ps3c then what's the point? I've been wanting to donate and still might but the vibes I've been getting here recently overall give me serious pause.

Idk wtf about your addy but I think I know the particular vendor you used and all I’ve heard is problems with opsec. Become a member id suggest and you would’ve been able to see the red flags with said vendor. Everyone needs to stop using that vendor to keep this site going! I was finna order too but saw all the posts about LLs so said nah.
Your addy may be burned, but I’m pretty certain vendor burned first so hopefully that takes heat off you. A lot of people have been getting the LL lately I’ve seen.
Tho I placed a domestic donation two weeks ago and yet to receive. Which maybe is bad opsec to say but look hard enough you can find domestic/mexican vendors with decent prices. Some trusted, some not. Canadians too.

RedMan39 said:

Idk wtf about your addy but I think I know the particular vendor you used and all I’ve heard is problems with opsec. Become a member id suggest and you would’ve been able to see the red flags with said vendor. Everyone needs to stop using that vendor to keep this site going! I was finna order too but saw all the posts about LLs so said nah.
Your addy may be burned, but I’m pretty certain vendor burned first so hopefully that takes heat off you. A lot of people have been getting the LL lately I’ve seen.
Tho I placed a domestic donation two weeks ago and yet to receive. Which maybe is bad opsec to say but look hard enough you can find domestic/mexican vendors with decent prices. Some trusted, some not. Canadians too.

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It's not burned, thankfully, multiple subscriptions have arrived since the LLs. It's just that vendor, and to his credit he had good communication and fully made up for the situation by offering a full refund, and ultimately sending d0mest!c mags instead.

What do you mean that I'd be able to see red flags if I donate? I understand that donation gives access to other vends but WTF? You mean there's info about vendors listed on here that people who haven't donated aren't privy to? That's not cool if true. And what do you mean "some trusted, some not", I thought the whole point of this site was to point people to trusted/legit vendors *only* (at least it used to be...). Seems like there are some questionable/dubious ones listed now and very legit ones that aren't so IDK...D0mest!c is generally too expensive though. I guess I just miss the old days (pre-pandemic)--seems like everything's worse now in this arena, selection/availability of mags, quality/authenticity (if it's not legit pharma it's shit IMO, why would I bother, with only a single exception in years), pricing and reliability. Ah well.

Softee said:

As a follow up, I have a package in that place between kustums and large distribution ctr, no LL after 3 weeks and no movement. I have experienced this before; in these cases, what do you believe is the probability of theft? I understand it’s rampant.

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That's pretty bizarre; I have heard of people's packs landing even after that long or longer though (especially during the pandemic, shipping was screwed up and that sort of delay was common). Honestly at that point I'd just assume it got lost (not stolen necessarily, just lost somewhere in the postal system). AFAIK, most of the package theft problems are from porch piracy, that sort of thing, I dunno about theft in transit.

Though I struggle to live by this adage myself, the saying "don't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence" is not a bad one especially when it comes to the mail. Hell, maybe they sent a LL and that got lost or misdelivered somehow. Hopefully not, but who knows? Stranger things have happened...

Pharmia said:

It's not burned, thankfully, multiple subscriptions have arrived since the LLs. It's just that vendor, and to his credit he had good communication and fully made up for the situation by offering a full refund, and ultimately sending d0mest!c mags instead.

What do you mean that I'd be able to see red flags if I donate? I understand that donation gives access to other vends but WTF? You mean there's info about vendors listed on here that people who haven't donated aren't privy to? That's not cool if true. And what do you mean "some trusted, some not", I thought the whole point of this site was to point people to trusted/legit vendors *only* (at least it used to be...). Seems like there are some questionable/dubious ones listed now and very legit ones that aren't so IDK...D0mest!c is generally too expensive though. I guess I just miss the old days (pre-pandemic)--seems like everything's worse now in this arena, selection/availability of mags, quality/authenticity (if it's not legit pharma it's shit IMO, why would I bother, with only a single exception in years), pricing and reliability. Ah well.

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Glad it’s not burned, you can relax a lil maybe. And I could be wrong I’ve only been on here like a month or two but yes, what you’re so mad about I believe is true.. you’ll get access to ‘verified vendors’ which tbh is not long a list. Have you not looked at the site and seen you can’t access some things?(which at first I agreed and thought was bullshit admittedly )I could be wrong, someone with more experience could chime in maybe. But yes, while I agree it’s unfortunate to donate to have access it makes sense. Someone(s) has to run this shit and moderate it and all that and idk I’m sure there’s some counter surveillance involved technologically speaking. Then pay fees for domains and shit like that. Nothing is free these days.

As for your anger about vendors, I agree. People can suck I really only go off threads of vendors that have good reviews and track records. Unfortunately, a main way of finding more ‘trusted’ vendors is by giving them access to this site and then readers donate and leave reviews about literature. “Trying out the reading authenticity, etc” is how you find out. So sometimes they good, sometimes they not is what I mean. Some are scams, which sounds like you’d be able to spot, and some are greatly appreciated new ones.
Seems like you’ve been around, if you know good vendors that aren’t listed which I believe you can’t see unless donation, and want to contribute, then do so. It’d be appreciated. Personally, in hindsight I think it’s worth it but totally agree that there are shady af shit vendors on here, tis the game I suppose. Obviously, respectfully, do as you will. Regards

Pharmia said:

It's not burned, thankfully, multiple subscriptions have arrived since the LLs. It's just that vendor, and to his credit he had good communication and fully made up for the situation by offering a full refund, and ultimately sending d0mest!c mags instead.

What do you mean that I'd be able to see red flags if I donate? I understand that donation gives access to other vends but WTF? You mean there's info about vendors listed on here that people who haven't donated aren't privy to? That's not cool if true. And what do you mean "some trusted, some not", I thought the whole point of this site was to point people to trusted/legit vendors *only* (at least it used to be...). Seems like there are some questionable/dubious ones listed now and very legit ones that aren't so IDK...D0mest!c is generally too expensive though. I guess I just miss the old days (pre-pandemic)--seems like everything's worse now in this arena, selection/availability of mags, quality/authenticity (if it's not legit pharma it's shit IMO, why would I bother, with only a single exception in years), pricing and reliability. Ah well.

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In my mind, I have to donate and have access to those sources as the donation amounts pay for itself many times over. I need all the information I can get. To your question, no there is no additional information about a source that you don’t see, but there are many more sources and at much better pricing.