Question for those on ADHD meds

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I thankfully don’t have this condition, but I rely on benzos for sleep and stabilizing my anxiety. I read askapatient dot com for reviews on various (usually non controlled) medications. Somehow, I came across the reviews for the generic name for Concerta. Many of them were from or about those who had been prescribed them since childhood. I understand that they and others like them are schedule 2 in America. It seems to me that doctors have been very generous with those scripts, even though they’re more tightly controlled than the benzos, which are schedule 4. Doctors are extremely reluctant, even p-docs, to write for benzos. They shout at me that they don’t want to lose their medical licenses. That’s even when I tried to get the lowest dose, in order to do a safe taper, which I told them.

Is anyone here on both types of pills? If so, could anyone tell me why doctors seem to easily script the st1ms but deny benzos??
 
Benzos were never designed to be prescribed for long term anxiety issues.. Doing so goes against the FDA prescribers guidelines.

ADHD has really only 1 treatment, That works anyway.. Stimulants.

ADHD can be verified by most psych doctors which will back up a GP's prescription.

Anxiety can be treated without the use of benzos and most cases with just DBT or CBT therapies.

Non controlled drugs can are are most often used in anxiety, Zoloft being the #1

The spike you see is simply due to loosening regulations around online prescribers during and after covid years. Which has since been reined in and the DEA has launched investigations into some online adhd suppliers and their doctors for over prescribing.

1 Pill to up during the day 1 pill to go down at night, what could possible go wrong with a patient being on 2 controlled substances that act against each other?
 
I've never been on both at the same time, but I used to take benzos and now need stimulants (yeah I'm the weirdo exception to the rule here). Unfortunately there's a lot of research that points to long term Benzo use being bad for multiple reasons. Dwindling efficacy requiring higher dosages over time or frequent stoppage of use to reset tolerance. There's links to both long term cognitive impairments and increased risk of dementia. I was taken off them after two decades of regular use because both the doctor and I agreed the risks had started to outweigh the benefits. Wasn't fun, but I eventually discovered gabapentin for anxiety and mirtazipine for sleep. Long term stimulant use for ADHD patients is pretty darn safe, in comparison.
 
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  2. L @ Layne_Cobain: I often wish I lived during the turn of the century or at least before the Harrison narcotics act or whatever I think it was 1924 the fun ended but anyway yeh being able to get laudanum, ❄️ and amphetamine at the local friendly pharmacy
  3. Maelstrom @ Maelstrom: Chew on the leaves with a bit of slaked lime and enjoy the mild boost you get from the raw base.
  4. Maelstrom @ Maelstrom: I’m sure you know the folks in the mountainous regions along South Americas pacific side buy cócà leaves at the local farmers market just to help acclimate to the higher elevation when they have to head up into the hills.
  5. Maelstrom @ Maelstrom: I would certainly have bought it, swilled it, enjoyed it…. Why not? A little boost in your juice isn’t going to hurt anyone.
  6. R @ Royboy99: Exports were reported to have around 7.2mg per FL OZ, it’s success is what actually led to Coca Cola
  7. Maelstrom @ Maelstrom: Having cramps and husband thinks you’re acting hysterical (ie. PMS) the doc would either perform a certain massage to relieve the strains of motherhood and family life of that time or send you down to the local apothecary for a bottle of laudanum… A tincture of alcohol and 10% òpìųm. Fun days huh?
  8. R @ Royboy99: @malestrom: yeah thats it, my bad Mariani, yeah i considered that and also its ROA, which was oral so the bioavailability was lower than insufflation, higher degree of purity tho and longer duration … there was a significant marked increase of patents filed by Edison during the time it was released in the US. Presidents were known to use it as well, and the Queen. The pope awarded the wine the Vatican gold medal award
  9. Maelstrom @ Maelstrom: I think it was called vin Mariani. But yeah, it was all the rave back in the turn to the 20th century. Original formula Coca Cola did it for a while too. I think it was pretty weak though. Something like 200 mg per liter of wine. Enough to maybe give you a little push but unless you could pound some serious alcohol, it’d be hard to really feel the effects before the ethyl knocked you down on the ground. It was an interesting time period. Laudanum was a “hysterical” woman’s best friend.
  10. R @ Royboy99: Maybe it’s the admixture of my South American dna that works so well with it ? 🤷
  11. R @ Royboy99: It’s all evident in memory recall, my emails, meetings, … people invest everything they have in a nootropic that provides this… desperately searching without success and it’s right there right under their nose (no pun) … stigmatized by society and outlawed.
  12. R @ Royboy99: Now I’m not foolish or delusional to think that it made Edison who he was … it just allowed him to Edison to Edison to a greater degree … and I see it doing that for me and others who use it as a productive tool and not a substance of abuse.. you can look at this data with the level of patents filed by Edison during that time … comparable to Barry bonds or McGuire breaking records while they were subtly enhanced
  13. R @ Royboy99: One could argue that we would not have motion pictures if it wasn’t for ❄️
  14. R @ Royboy99: I also take month long breaks and replace with Ritalin for receptor recovery
  15. R @ Royboy99: And while it may sound insane and completely destructive … small microdoses of ❄️ has really transformed me. I did extensive research on its use by Edison, the pope at the time, and many others who got great benefit from a wine concoction called vin Mariani … this subtle enhancement changed the world and as long its used with a high degree of control, it’s amazing. you may think I’m crazy … but I’m just being as transparent as I can
  16. R @ Royboy99: I’ve grown to realize that my time is finite and Im only getting older… I’m back to relying on small PRN doses of FDA trialed BZDs and it’s made tremendous improvements to my quality of life. I just need to get out there more and meet someone new, it’s the only piece that’s missing since I’ve managed to get it together
  17. R @ Royboy99: @LatsDoodis: thanks brother … I’ve spent months trying to put myself in uncomfortable places to grow stronger. Hours of research, thousands on supplements, therapy etc …
  18. LatsDoodis @ LatsDoodis: @Royboy99 You’re not yet lost. Cut them losses and do what you don’t want to do. Take the boring, shameful, nerve racking way out. It’s the only road back to balance. When you’re ready, you’ll do it. Hit me up if you want support quitting. This ain’t worth your life!
  19. R @ Royboy99: Grateful that this site exists and realizing that trying to save a few bucks today may cost me so much more in the future …
  20. R @ Royboy99: The hardest hit was losing my girl , and I still feel the tremendous heartache everyday, over a year later … knowing that I caused it all. She gave me multiple chances and I let her down everytime … I use Diaz and kpins going on year now for my panic attacks, ptsd and anxiety. With no issues and see a therapist weekly
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