2-cb in Europe?

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BranMakMorn

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Hi, I'm fairly new here and I'm considering donating to access the proper lists, but I have a preliminary quesiton: I'm really just looking for 2-cb, and I am in Europe. I see that it hardly ever appears on vendors that I can access: does it make any sense for me to donate to see the others? Are there EU vendors that have it in stock or am I wasting my time? Thanks!
 
I can't speak for the EU but it's rare, I think there are a few authors out there though if you look hard enough. I would recommend sending it out for testing though, even if you find an author who claims to have that material, I would trust but verify. Unfortunately, that particular chemical has a fraught history in most of the world these days.

Regardless I would recommend you donate to the forum it will save you a lot of heartache and anxiety if you decide to work with anyone here. I think a couple mbtc are worth being able to explore and potentially find resources that might lead you on the right path if you're committed to your cause. If you hang around the forum you might find some relationships that can help expand your sphere of knowledge too which is FAR more valuable than just the forum alone. Remember this is a place where people with shared interests congregate.
 
Gulp2788 said:
I can't speak for the EU but it's rare, I think there are a few authors out there though if you look hard enough. I would recommend sending it out for testing though, even if you find an author who claims to have that material, I would trust but verify. Unfortunately, that particular chemical has a fraught history in most of the world these days.

Regardless I would recommend you donate to the forum it will save you a lot of heartache and anxiety if you decide to work with anyone here. I think a couple mbtc are worth being able to explore and potentially find resources that might lead you on the right path if you're committed to your cause. If you hang around the forum you might find some relationships that can help expand your sphere of knowledge too which is FAR more valuable than just the forum alone. Remember this is a place where people with shared interests congregate.
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It's a hard path alright, always was - more so for some than others. Tis a war zone after all, causes caution - extreme in some, I know.

Have been looking at the same formula (2C-B) and have seen it mentioned in many lists, but wondering, what is the fraught history you refer to?
 
Heman said:
It's a hard path alright, always was - more so for some than others. Tis a war zone after all, causes caution - extreme in some, I know.

Have been looking at the same formula (2C-B) and have seen it mentioned in many lists, but wondering, what is the fraught history you refer to?
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It's exactly what you think, lawmakers making laws and sending what was once a readily available and pure chemical into the underground. Demand for it exists though so it'll never really go away totally like my personal favorite research did back in the 2010's :( I miss you Mike X-ray Echo....

If you can find it, 2c-b-FLY was a favorite of Ann Shulgin, just be careful not to get dragonfly.
 
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Gulp2788 said:
It's exactly what you think, lawmakers making laws and sending what was once a readily available and pure chemical into the underground. Demand for it exists though so it'll never really go away totally like my personal favorite research did back in the 2010's :( I miss you Mike X-ray Echo....

If you can find it, 2c-b-FLY was a favorite of Ann Shulgin, just be careful not to get dragonfly.
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Heard about dragonfly but still relatively new to RCs and connecting dots as i go, it's a complex field and I'm of an intuitive bent with a lot of experience in the field, or fields gone by. Appreciate the info mate.

With reference to the OP @BranMakMorn , I'd say wherever you are, whatever you're after, it's best to expand your territory to increase your potential opportunities. You'll save the cost of sponsorship no problem.
 
Gulp2788 said:
It's exactly what you think, lawmakers making laws and sending what was once a readily available and pure chemical into the underground. Demand for it exists though so it'll never really go away totally like my personal favorite research did back in the 2010's :( I miss you Mike X-ray Echo....

If you can find it, 2c-b-FLY was a favorite of Ann Shulgin, just be careful not to get dragonfly.
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There's actually a NL website that does have 2-cb FLY in stock, but I'm a bit wary, I've read it's not quite the same beast...
 
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