2-METHYL-AP-237.HCL

D0thug said:
Where are you shipping from?
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China and the lowest rcc can do is 5kilo for 25000$ way too much money for me to get anytime soon unless I can take out a small business loan and start a new side hussle as a vendor for 2map and only 2map
 
Strawhat6363 said:
China and the lowest rcc can do is 5kilo for 25000$ way too much money for me to get anytime soon unless I can take out a small business loan and start a new side hussle as a vendor for 2map and only 2map
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5k per kilo for 237? LOL!!! I could cook up a kilo in the better half of a day and probably only need about $500 for the reagents / reactants.

I've got enough Sodium Hydroxide and Potassium hydroxide to convert the existing 2map from China to the freebase form, and then add some butyryl chloride to sodium butyrate and sodium chloride. Then base reactants with cinnamaldehyde to form sodium cinnamate and cinnamyl alcohol. Extract with NP, evaporate the NP, take up in anhydrous acetone and slowly drip in sulfuric acid or bubble in HCl gas. That would precipitate into a very pure 2MAP (much better than the shit coming from China).

I could probably whip up a kilo in the better half of an afternoon and have a much safer and purer form than the junk coming from China.

That price is a joke for the shit they're creating. The last time I checked, there was still a lot of junk left in the mix (it looked like the guy creating the last batch was rushing and didn't even bother to boil off some of the nastier shit). I wouldn't go so far as to call it toxic but it definitely isn't something I'd want to put in my body on a daily basis.
 
sitm1914 said:
5k per kilo for 237? LOL!!! I could cook up a kilo in the better half of a day and probably only need about $500 for the reagents / reactants.

I've got enough Sodium Hydroxide and Potassium hydroxide to convert the existing 2map from China to the freebase form, and then add some butyryl chloride to sodium butyrate and sodium chloride. Then base reactants with cinnamaldehyde to form sodium cinnamate and cinnamyl alcohol. Extract with NP, evaporate the NP, take up in anhydrous acetone and slowly drip in sulfuric acid or bubble in HCl gas. That would precipitate into a very pure 2MAP (much better than the shit coming from China).

I could probably whip up a kilo in the better half of an afternoon and have a much safer and purer form than the junk coming from China.

That price is a joke for the shit they're creating. The last time I checked, there was still a lot of junk left in the mix (it looked like the guy creating the last batch was rushing and didn't even bother to boil off some of the nastier shit). I wouldn't go so far as to call it toxic but it definitely isn't something I'd want to put in my body on a daily basis.
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Highly interested, willing to pay fees and because a forum member! Do lmk
 
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