Alert and wakeful

[Jellopanda]

I know this may not be the right section for this question, but i didn't know where else to put it. Feel free to move it somewhere more appropriate if needed. 

After a really bad night's sleep or none at all and i have some pressing appointment in the morning or around noon i could use something that keeps me awake and alert and not a complete zombie. 

Caffeine is the go to drug for many people, but that only helps me so much, it can actually make me very unfocused and make my mind go in every kind of direction at once making it hard for people to follow what i'm saying. In addition to that i can only take caffeine very early in the day otherwise it'll give me big problems falling asleep at night.

M0danif1l was mentioned, but the person who used it said it didn't make her awake, only more focused (with may mean i can use it with caffeine ofc), but i usually have no problem focusing.

I know things like m3th, sd33p and or c0k3 can help with that, but that's waaay harder than anything i wanna take.

In short i'm looking for something relatively mild that makes me awake and alert for the first 4-8 hours of the day, and then preferably leaves your system and gives you no problem sleeping at night, if anything like that exists.

 

[Kalsima]

@Jellopanda i am also like you! I am a great morning person i wake up around 6:00 am but by noon i start getting tired and by 2:00 im ready to take a nap. Since i have problems with stimulants, just cocaine im afraid to try anything strong since ive been sober from cocaine for about two months now or maybe a month and half but i had some time in before i moved to Denver. But im searching for the same thing. Right now i have been taking caffiene pills like crazy in the afternoon. I havent had time to take a nap becasue i usually have something to do with my son everyday. I would love to know of anyone had any thoughts too. Also i notice i am scatter brained all the time! I start one thing like laudry and forget it move on to cleaning the kitchen then get distracted and clean another room so i leave half ass jobs all over the house. Nothing ever gets done! Except with my son hes on me to take him to all these placement tests and with the admissions counselor. Without him on me i ammagraid it wouldnt get done! I was thinking i could be ADHD but no doctor has ever suggested it. My friend is the same way and she says adderal works wonders for her. Im so afraid of stimulants because of my past history now that im afraid to try! Bit @DippityDoo did suggest the modalert or modafinil seems like that can help in that area, ill head over to that area to find a good source. But for staying awake with something mild im very interested to see any replies! Thanks in advance!

 

[PTFC]

How about I suggest White tea? It has high levels of Theanine, which helps you relax AND concentrate. It's a fantastic beverage, I buy tea by the tonne, green and white. Silver needles White leaves are my favourite, and only picked a few days every year, the early buds of the leaf. Considered the finest white tea in existence. 

 

[Kalsima]

Oh ny god. I love Teavana Which in the USA is expensive wonderful tea I'm sure you have over there also!  but @PTFC now you have me really interested! Is it froom Scotland or England. How do I purchase it? Amazon or is their a website? I would really like to try it if you believe in its benefits and I trust you that if it helps you. It could help me without using drugs' Since the reason for my move is to,quit doing drugs. I would,love to know more about this tea' I think I will,google it now look on google to research it and look for places to order it. If I need any help I will return  back to this thread' and might have to ask some questions. This is great because recently coffee has been making me sick in the morning and I haven't been able to drink it without nausea. My son turned me onto vanilla ice chai tea, I love it but none of the benefits you mentioned and I'm tired of popping caffeine pills all day. Like @Jellopandasays they screw up my sleep at night which leads to me taking more xanax Which is something I'm trying to avoid. Thanks so much for this information I'll take it to heart and really try. I can't go on with caffeine pills I'll get a huge xanax habit again! Thanks so much!

 

[PTFC]

Yeah, you can get genuine silver needles tea leaves from Amazon. do a little research,  green and white tea both have fantastic benefits. Mostly Chinese tea. I'm British anyway, we built an empire with tea. That's not to say I dont enjoy a cup of Indias finest either. Properly made chai is lovely too,spicy, warm, and good for your stomach. Easily made at home too, loads of recipes on the net! 

 

[Kalsima]

@PTFC so my son and I love tea, especially we love Valilla Thai tea, and I was surprised at the recipes for making all kind of teas! I found the best rated silver needles tea and I'm about to order but this one got the best reviews in the 7,000 mostly 4 to 5 stars I'm really anxious to order. Am I making a wise choice? Pr do you suggest something different? Thanks in advance me and my son are really looking for way to trying it! And there's another one called Davidsons and it organic but it's $75.00 moneys not an object we want to to put in an order today to get it asap. Do you have any personal recommendations. We both love grease and white tea. Thanks in advance I swear I googled it and looked in amazon before bothering you, I just want to get what you would recommend. Thanks so much,

Heavenlee 

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[ElectroNymph]

@PTFC so my son and I love tea, especially we love Valilla Thai tea, and I was surprised at the recipes for making all kind of teas! I found the best rated silver needles tea and I'm about to order but this one got the best reviews in the 7,000 mostly 4 to 5 stars I'm really anxious to order. Am I making a wise choice? Pr do you suggest something different? Thanks in advance me and my son are really looking for way to trying it! And there's another one called Davidsons and it organic but it's $75.00 moneys not an object we want to to put in an order today to get it asap. Do you have any personal recommendations. We both love grease and white tea. Thanks in advance I swear I googled it and looked in amazon before bothering you, I just want to get what you would recommend. Thanks so much,

Heavenlee 

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I would recommend speed, but that isn't sensible!

DHC has often kept me up all night.

 

[PTFC]

@PTFC so my son and I love tea, especially we love Valilla Thai tea, and I was surprised at the recipes for making all kind of teas! I found the best rated silver needles tea and I'm about to order but this one got the best reviews in the 7,000 mostly 4 to 5 stars I'm really anxious to order. Am I making a wise choice? Pr do you suggest something different? Thanks in advance me and my son are really looking for way to trying it! And there's another one called Davidsons and it organic but it's $75.00 moneys not an object we want to to put in an order today to get it asap. Do you have any personal recommendations. We both love grease and white tea. Thanks in advance I swear I googled it and looked in amazon before bothering you, I just want to get what you would recommend. Thanks so much,

Heavenlee 

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You definately can't go wrong with either of them!

 

[Jellopanda]

@PTFC glad to get a recommendation here. I've been looking for stores where i can talk to an expert about this, but i live in the middle of nowhere so that's hard to find. I really enjoy and feel i benefit from talking to people who really know their stuff, especially when i buy something for the first time, and even more when it's something i ingest. It's probably the reason i've been reprimanded a couple of times by PTFC for asking so many questions instead of doing my own research

Hope i'm not gonna bore you too much with this anecdote, but when i was restoring old expensive wooden furniture as a hobby. Sandpapering them down wtih all kinds of grains by hand or tools, using different oils or lacquers to give them the best finish, i was sent by someone to a store in Oslo that was warmly recommended by people in the know.

When i arrived there where 10-foot high shelves everywhere with all kinds of strange things, with barely enough space to walk between them, and no one was there. I had to walk into a backroom where i found this maybe 70 year old man with bushy eyebrows in a knitted sweater-jacket and horn-rimmed glasses. It was like from some kinda movie. Anyway we ended talking for maybe four hours about everything related to my hobby, and he knew pretty much everything there was to know about it, and i learned a ton of things i didn't know and came out of that store with everything from special kinds of lacquers, with different qualities like shine and depth to kangaroo-hair paint brushes and neoprene paint rollers and he promised to order me this special kind of chinese tree oil that i had been looking for, but hadn't found anywhere.

That's the kinda expert that i love talking to, get help and learn from. Found a lot here, so i'm often tempted to ask, but i will try my best to do my own research when that will suffice.

Back to wakefulness. I was tempted to order M0daf1n1l from one of the vendors, but i read about it and in norway it can only be prescibed by a doctor with extensive knowledge and experience with narcolepsy. Not that i have that, but it kinda raises a red flag. So i will try white tea first. 

 

[Kalsima]

@Jellopanda same thing with me with the modafinil. I already have a problem with stimulants so I'm trying natural remedies first. I ended up ordering the Davidson Tea Bulk and received yesterday and I'm really impressed. I'm not sure how much it made me awake an alertful to my xanax intake but it did make me feel more awake and alertful than any other tea you can buy at the grocery store. I like the medical value in it also. It's strong enough to stand up for cream and sugar and still taste the tea which is delicious. And it smells beautiful! I have my son a quarter of my bag and he's in love wit it too. It's expensive compared to the anise seed and Assam Banaspaty but it seems like it will last a long time so it's worth the price, thanks @PTFC I would have never discovered this silver needles tea on my own and I thought I was a tea enthusiast because I shop at teavana! But this is far away the best smelling and tasting tea ever!

 

[oldfart]

@jello & @heaven, The discussion of Silver Needles is fascinating. I must try it sometime.

However, should the tea fall short of the need for wakefulness, I have a chemical solution in mind from yesteryear. M3+hylph3n!d@+3, otherwise known as r!+@l!n. It lasts hours less than coffee, and might be useful on occasion for the scatter brain you describe.

Not trying to prescribe here, I'm just commenting. I am not a doctor.

- Doctor oldfart