Fluoalprazolam vs Clobromazolam

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I'm curious if anyone can compare these different mags or provide their experiences of them.

I do have a diagnosed anxiety disorder but I'm also interested in a recreational value as I'm quitting O-DSMT, or perhaps just on a tolly break. Have tried Avizafone
 
You didn't like avizafone? The weaker ones like Rilmazafone are better choices, in my opinion for weekly anxiety control since withdrawal is minimal to non existent. Wish the FDA and doctors would catch on to this and prescribe them. On the other hand it's good to keep a small stash of something strong, heavy and quick acting for those emergencies. Currently researching ethyl Brom for this. Brom was a good slugger.
 
Haven’t tried cl0br0 but have had flu@lp and br0M@z from a trusted solid vendor on here…my tolerance is extremely high but I guess I can project recreational effects based on what effects I do get from them…brom to me is similar to good ole @lp hard to tell if it’s a bit more or bit less potent seems pretty close but bit longer acting…flu on the other hand smacks hard and last very long effects wise n half life…think flu is supposed to be anywhere from 2-4X more potent than alp seems about right …
 
Layne_Cobain said:
Haven’t tried cl0br0 but have had flu@lp and br0M@z from a trusted solid vendor on here…my tolerance is extremely high but I guess I can project recreational effects based on what effects I do get from them…brom to me is similar to good ole @lp hard to tell if it’s a bit more or bit less potent seems pretty close but bit longer acting…flu on the other hand smacks hard and last very long effects wise n half life…think flu is supposed to be anywhere from 2-4X more potent than alp seems about right …
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I think they may be talking about flu0pr@z, some Vends are calling it flu0@lpr@z for some reason? I could be wrong but your assessment is right in my opinion, but if they get flu0p and expect flu@lp, they’ll probably be disappointed in expected p0tency
 
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I think they may be talking about flu0pr@z, some Vends are calling it flu0@lpr@z for some reason? I could be wrong but your assessment is right in my opinion, but if they get flu0p and expect flu@lp, they’ll probably be disappointed in expected p0tency
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I wasn’t sure if the “o” was a mistake or not since I couldn’t find it when searching so assumed flu but not surprised yet another rc benz0 lol
 
EShotterset said:
You didn't like avizafone? The weaker ones like Rilmazafone are better choices, in my opinion for weekly anxiety control since withdrawal is minimal to non existent. Wish the FDA and doctors would catch on to this and prescribe them. On the other hand it's good to keep a small stash of something strong, heavy and quick acting for those emergencies. Currently researching ethyl Brom for this. Brom was a good slugger.
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Well I'm seeing now that the roa for Avizafone is supposed to be IM? I was trying it orally and perhaps in too low of a dose to notice effects. If anyone knows if other ROAs work I'm having trouble finding info on it
 
kitkat3441 said:
Well I'm seeing now that the roa for Avizafone is supposed to be IM? I was trying it orally and perhaps in too low of a dose to notice effects. If anyone knows if other ROAs work I'm having trouble finding info on it
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IM or IV, if you’re into that, or even IN work yeah, but just make a solution and drink it. It’s a prodrųġ of diäzepām so it’s metabolized into diäzepām by an enzyme called aminopeptidase B which is all throughout the human body including the intestines, so oral is perfectly fine. The interesting part about it seems to be the enzymatic kinetics, which basically means how quickly /effectively an enzyme can change A into B. In rats given aviz and human aminopeptidase B, there wasn’t much difference in the bioavailability between 1 m-g/kg and 1.5 m-g/kg, and 1 m-g/kg actually had a higher average peak plasma concentration. So I’d stick with 1 m-g/kg as your max. But that’s quite high if you’re like 80kg. 15 m-g aviz converts to ~10 m-g diäz. Furthermore, everyone has differing amounts of enzymes and such (especially compared to rats given said enzyme) so it may affect someone a little more than someone else.
Sorry for the rant but I’m a biochemist so I like researching and talking about these things lol.
 
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kitkat3441 said:
Well I'm seeing now that the roa for Avizafone is supposed to be IM? I was trying it orally and perhaps in too low of a dose to notice effects. If anyone knows if other ROAs work I'm having trouble finding info on it.
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Avizafone dosage has to be double what Diazepam dosing is orally. And i guess people have trouble mixing it into solution but either way its very weak. I'd look into brentazenil for everyday or weekly use. 1mg dosing orally and can be very sedative. Little to no withdrawal depending on use. Clobro and fluolpra are not the most liked even amongst the most hard-core tardos-de'-bars. Etizolam and Ethylbrom seem to be very well liked. I'm about to give ethylbrom a try later today. I can let you know what it's like.
 
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Ethylbromazolam was not the best, but then again I didn't like bromazolam or pam that much for some reason. I loved flubromazolam and I react well to clobromazolam, though it is not near what ppl say being like Clonazolam or flubromazolam.. it is stronger, just more hypnotic and anxiolytic and not as noticeable if you're looking for recreation. I use it for medicinal and it completely has replaced my 2 x day 10mg diazepam with only one 2mg clobromazolam in the morning.. and I've used diazepam for 20+ years .. I also used soooook many RC and Rx benzos .. so I have experience galore... My body does and doesn't react well with specific benzos and in hyper aware/sensitive... I love diazepam and alprazolam, but don't respond well to lorazepam or Clonazepam.. idk why... I love diazepam but never cared for diclazepam even though I thought it'd be one of my favorites, same with flubromazePAM, no go for me even though I love the long acting anxiolytics.. phenazepam was one of my favorites... I like etizolam a lot as well....

Clobromazolam is suited for medicinal users with legitimate anxiety and have to be dosing it hit too much or too little and from a proper source. Rift has been good to me ..
 
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Avizafone dosage has to be double what Diazepam dosing is orally. And i guess people have trouble mixing it into solution but either way it’s very weak. I'd look into brentazenil for everyday or weekly use. 1mg dosing orally and can be very sedative. Little to no withdrawal depending on use. Clobro and fluolpra are not the most liked even amongst the most hard-core tardos-de'-bars. Etizolam and Ethylbrom seem to be very well liked. I'm about to give ethylbrom a try later today. I can let you what it’s like.
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Personally I think it’s stronger than half the p0tency of diäz but everyone is different, batch quality, etc. but I agree that single digit m-g’s won’t knock you down though, no.
It’s water soluble so very easy to make a solution, just be mindful of bacterial growth though. The member F33n has some good pointers about it. Basically dissolve it in water, then add some ethanol (drinking alcohol) or propylene glycol and it’ll stay good for a while. Just look up what ratios you should use to get the anti microbial effects from those.
I have no experience with the other bėnz’s you mentioned @EShotterset so please let us know what you find out!
 
Dosed 5mg of ethy-brom. I feel pretty good and there is a good amount of euphoria but it took 45+ min to kick in. I was hoping for something much quicker acting. It's pretty light so I'd say 5mg is a lighter end dose. Next time I'd want to push it a little closer to 10mg if I was in a bad spot. Decent read but not what I prefer. Rilmaz is still my #1 functioner and I'll be searching for a faster actor to compliment what little rilm i have left. Until then I'll make the best of what I have. Maybe it will grow on me. I recommend mixing it at 20mg a CC and taking half a CC or less to avoid swallowing all that PG and solvent. Shits not good for ya.
 
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Just updating to say it was a mistype on the vendors part and it was indeed flu0p. Sorry for the confusing title. I've seen now that this is new and not many have tried it yet so I'll wait for reports and see.
 
Fluop is not bad. It's Loprazolam's, not Lorazepam, fluorinated version. I tried it at what I believe were 4mg tablets, and besides being a bit sedating, they seemed to be pretty nice. I wouldn't say it was a new revelation out there.
 
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