How many of you guys tried nifoxipam?

[flerf]

I got some nifoxipam solution, says it’s 4 mg/ml, and was wondering how many of y’all tried it and what experiences you have with it?

I did search but mostly found only threads from a decade ago or at least several years ago, so I’m thinking this might be a different batch.

I’m not yet a paid member here (I will donate when I get my next check next week) but I got it from one of the approved vendors on the US list (i know because I saw his name on here mentioned several times) ag; I’ve been buying from him long before I discovered this site and he mentioned it to me one day so I decided I’d see what it’s all about.

Anyways, let me know if you guys have tried it. Thank you.

 

[touronstage]

I was blown away by the same solution.
However the powder was 100% inactive.
Wonder what was in that solution cause it sure was Valium like.

 

[Insaa]

If it’s the same stuff I got the powder was completely and utterly inactive. I am extremely disappointed

 

[touronstage]

Yeah I'd recommend stay away from AGs nifoxipam powder. Multiple people are reporting it's bunk but the solutions are fire.

 

[Prairiemix]

I never tried ag’s solution but the powder from maybe 6 months ago and also a year ago was totally active and indeed very Valium like.
He hasn’t run out and restocked nifoxipam like he has with the other benzos - I wonder if this chemical happens to degrade/lose potency very quickly. Perhaps a bunch of solutions were made right off the bat and the powder is losing its efficacy.
Anyone in here know any chemistry to say if that’s possible ?

 

[ochemdim]

I never tried ag’s solution but the powder from maybe 6 months ago and also a year ago was totally active and indeed very Valium like.
He hasn’t run out and restocked nifoxipam like he has with the other benzos - I wonder if this chemical happens to degrade/lose potency very quickly. Perhaps a bunch of solutions were made right off the bat and the powder is losing its efficacy.
Anyone in here know any chemistry to say if that’s possible ?

Compounds break down over time but 6 months from wham to wtf? would be extremely fast and unlikely unless it was left outside or open to humidity and the environment. I don’t think Auto would do that, they seem to know what they’re doing
To slow the breakdown of a cħ3m, it’s typically best practice to keep it in a cool, dark, and dry area. Keep air and moisture out of any containers to avoid oxidation and hydrolysis, respectively. Avoid UV light.
Advanced methods include; overlaying a compound in nitrogen gas (or other unreactive gas so oxygen is displaced), -70 C and colder freezers, desiccants, etc.
If a large amount is stored, first break it up into smaller portions and freeze them so the whole batch isn’t being freeze/thawed constantly.

If the claims are true, I’d theorize that either - a new batch was procured recently, the top portion or half or whatnot of the original was active, and least likely-a different cħ3m was added in earlier versions.

 

[touronstage]

Compounds break down over time but 6 months from wham to wtf? would be extremely fast and unlikely unless it was left outside or open to humidity and the environment. I don’t think Auto would do that, they seem to know what they’re doing
To slow the breakdown of a cħ3m, it’s typically best practice to keep it in a cool, dark, and dry area. Keep air and moisture out of any containers to avoid oxidation and hydrolysis, respectively. Avoid UV light.
Advanced methods include; overlaying a compound in nitrogen gas (or other unreactive gas so oxygen is displaced), -70 C and colder freezers, desiccants, etc.
If a large amount is stored, first break it up into smaller portions and freeze them so the whole batch isn’t being freeze/thawed constantly.

If the claims are true, I’d theorize that either - a new batch was procured recently, the top portion or half or whatnot of the original was active, and least likely-a different cħ3m was added in earlier versions.

Indeed it was a restock. I remember it was out then back in about a week.

 

[ochemdim]

Indeed it was a restock. I remember it was out then back in about a week.

Ah ok that’s probably it then. Maybe they should talk to the publisher about it? Seems to be a recurring theme lately with the nif0x. AG has a great rep for a reason, it’s disheartening to see less than good reviews for a solid vend.

 

[flerf]

I was blown away by the same solution.
However the powder was 100% inactive.
Wonder what was in that solution cause it sure was Valium like.

Agreed! It definitely hits pretty quickly too, like within an hour I already feel it.

What dosage do you take? I usually do a ml, so 4 mg supposedly, and it’s a decent amount, but I need 2-3 ml (8-12 mg supposedly) to really feel it strong or have it knock me out for bed. I’ve read psychonaut’s wiki dose guide and they say 2+ is “heavy” which means either their guide is off or it’s not quite 4 mg/ml (my tolerance is pretty much near zero).

Anyway, it’s pretty good stuff, so I’ll probably order it again but def steering clear of the powder form.

 

[Imthatchemist]

Got from AG as well, I have a massive tolerance and it’s not my favorite but far from inactive