How Much Privacy Are You Willing To Give Up?

Mike

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With our increasingly intrusive government I see a lot of peopletrying to justify their actions with rationale like "I don't have anything to worry about because I'm not hiding anything" etc.

Well how far are you willing to go? How much privacy are you willing to give up in the name of security?

On a daily basis I'm reading about violations of our rights, freedoms, and privacy, the latest of which I read about is a town having installed video cameras in public restrooms, recording people even when in bathroom stalls. This has been going on for a good 10+ years and they justify it by saying you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public restroom.

So do you agree with this view or do you find it intrusive? Would you allow cams in changing rooms? In your car? Your house? Where does one draw the line?

The news reported is very sobering.

http://www.policesta...ion-of-privacy/

 
Mike said:
With our increasingly intrusive government I see a lot of peopletrying to justify their actions with rationale like "I don't have anything to worry about because I'm not hiding anything" etc.

Well how far are you willing to go? How much privacy are you willing to give up in the name of security?

On a daily basis I'm reading about violations of our rights, freedoms, and privacy, the latest of which I read about is a town having installed video cameras in public restrooms, recording people even when in bathroom stalls. This has been going on for a good 10+ years and they justify it by saying you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public restroom.

So do you agree with this view or do you find it intrusive? Would you allow cams in changing rooms? In your car? Your house? Where does one draw the line?

The news reported is very sobering.

http://www.policesta...ion-of-privacy/
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To tell you the truth, I don't think we have ever lived in a truly free country with privacy. That is one thing I want in my life is to be able to do what I what, when I want (as long as I am not endangering someone or something) without the fear of being violated in some manner or another.

Having cameras in restrooms is absolutely unacceptable and should be considered a violation of law. It's offensive to me as a human-being and especially since I'm from the U.S., which is considered "the home of the free". This is obviously not the case in many circumstances, although I do love my country. New Hampshire's state motto says it best; "live free or die".

 
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I think the concept of "Willing" with regard to our privacy (or any illusion of it) no longer applies, and hasn't for a very long time. 

 
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