I attempted the Kratom, got a decent price, was hopeful about trying it as I saw it did all the things I look for--promote relaxation, sleep, mild pain and anxiety...picked one out of a batch I rec'd, went with toss and wash, waited over an hour for it to get into my system (also took anti nausea meds), but ended up throwing up, and experienced no good feelings of any sort at all. Tried a different batch a few days later, again, puking my guts out...I ended up giving everything to my brother in law who generally has a high tolerance for everything & is game to experiment--he had a great experience and even got laid b/c of this!!! I guess we all just have different metabolisms, so not for me, but obviously good for others...Best, Leigh Anne