Kratom Petition

Rainey

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I am putting this in a separate thread cuz I would prefer this to be contained to discuss and share info not on the Kratom drug per se but on the proposed ban and ways we can all help fight it.  Here is a link to the petition, as I type this we are at 54,000 signatures and need 100,000.    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance

Anyone wishing to make a donation to defend our right to us Kratom can do so via PayPal defendkratom@gmail.com or Bitcoin.

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I have only used Kratom a few times to stave WDs from opiates.  It's nasty tasting but safer than many alternatives.  It is virtually impossible to OD and die from this plant.   You will puke before you die. 

I urge everybody to sign. I am usually not much of an activist but the federal government should have left this in the states hands.  

 
I have only used Kratom a few times to stave WDs from opiates.  It's nasty tasting but safer than many alternatives.  It is virtually impossible to OD and die from this plant.   You will puke before you die. 

I urge everybody to sign. I am usually not much of an activist but the federal government should have left this in the states hands.  
Hey I'm all for it and I don't want to come off as unsupportive.

But the plant is being labeled an opiate with opiates in it and/or being used for opioid manufacturing....The DEA is going to have to schedule that, this has been a long time coming imo.

That said, it would be HUGE success for the people vs the government if we were able to get the DEA to agree to a lesser schedule. Unfortunately to agree to a lesser schedule, it must be a prescription medication.

Due to kratom's lack of prescription medication status, its going schedule 1. Read that carefully and you will see there is a flaw in the scheduling system...its literally designed to heavily prosecute anything that isn't a pharmaceutical. Anything controlled is either Schedule 5 to 2, and then schedule 1 is literally all non-pharmaceutical.

THATS A BIG REVELATION. ^

 
I have only used Kratom a few times to stave WDs from opiates.  It's nasty tasting but safer than many alternatives.  It is virtually impossible to OD and die from this plant.   You will puke before you die. 

I urge everybody to sign. I am usually not much of an activist but the federal government should have left this in the states hands.  
Hey I'm all for it and I don't want to come off as unsupportive.

But the plant is being labeled an opiate with opiates in it and/or being used for opioid manufacturing....The DEA is going to have to schedule that, this has been a long time coming imo.

That said, it would be HUGE success for the people vs the government if we were able to get the DEA to agree to a lesser schedule. Unfortunately to agree to a lesser schedule, it must be a prescription medication.

Due to kratom's lack of prescription medication status, its going schedule 1. Read that carefully and you will see there is a flaw in the scheduling system...its literally designed to heavily prosecute anything that isn't a pharmaceutical. Anything controlled is either Schedule 5 to 2, and then schedule 1 is literally all non-pharmaceutical.

THATS A BIG REVELATION. ^

 
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