Man RIP 4f-mph, shortage or just no interest in it?

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Ever since my main went down, I don't really trust anyone on my (now would be considered old) list, and 4f-mph seems so hard to find these days. Not interested in amphs at all, so maybe that's why it's hard to find/not as popular?

I can't be the only one having a hard time finding US to US that has actual GOOD 4fmph, not that trash that was going around for awhile.
 
i've been wondering that too. it seems like an ideal productivity stim and yet nobody talks about it anymore. makes me wonder. judging from my regular sources, there isn't a current production shortage of 4f-mph. on other hand, there is, or recently was, a major shortage of perscription versions of adhd stims. the fact that nobody is talking about 4f-mph while complaining about being unable to secure adderall suggests 4f-mph either still kinda sucks or has other concerns.
 
four eff is one of my occasional go tos for productivity. Very euphoric for me at a high dose but comedown is rough (watch your math when weighing kids - as the guy from Office Space learned those decimal places matter). Plentiful on DNMs but who knows what quantity. EN's is solid - price higher but not out of reach for the occasional user and lab tested.
 
It used to he way better with a lot of potential. Now it's barely worth the trouble
 
I have the hook on it, domestic and Canada, fire and cheap. Mags are priced amazing, as its supposed to be since it's so cheap to get in bulk anyway. I've never ran out haha
 
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