The first one is available from several vendors. Second one is not as common but it is out there. If you become a sponsor, you can view the US-US forum, as well as almost all the other ones.
@LatsDoodis:
@SeaDonkey I think everyone deserves a second chance. I worked all night so eclipsing my life away… I do love stargazing and a telescope is high on my list of things to do when I’m high!