New legislation proposed - 3 day limit opioid scripts

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Florida Gov. Rick Scott announced a new proposal for a three-day limit on prescribed opioids in his state. Scott said Tuesday he will propose the legislation and more than $50 million to next year's budget to combat opioid abuse, WPTV reported.
The legislation would require all health care providers who prescribe or distribute medication to participate in the Florida Prescription Drug Monitoring Program, a statewide database that monitors prescriptions for controlled substances. The legislation includes reforms to combat unlicensed pain management clinics and require continuing education courses on responsibly prescribing opioids, and would also create new opportunities for federal grant funding, according to a statement from the governor's office.
A highlight of the legislation is a three-day limit on prescribed opioids, unless strict conditions are met that would require a seven-day supply.
The proposed $50 million budget would include funding for substance abuse treatment, counseling and recovery services, and The Florida Violent Crime and Drug Control Council.
"These proposals will make a major impact on limiting the chance of drug addiction, reducing the ability for dangerous drugs to spread in our communities, giving vulnerable Floridians the support they need, and ensuring our hard working law enforcement officers have the resources to protect Floridians," Scott said in a statement.
Scott declared the opioid epidemic in the state of Florida a public health emergency in May and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports deaths from prescription opioids and heroin have more than quadrupled since 1999.
Senate President Joe Negron and House Speaker Richard Corcoran are both supportive of the legislative. In a statement from the governor's office, both said they are committed to working to combat opioid abuse and are "dedicated to protecting our families and communities from the national opioid epidemic."
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-09-26/fl-gov-announces-3-day-limit-on-opioid-prescriptions?int=news-rec

 
You know what this will do? Same thing rescheduling hydro did: increase heroin use and illicit pain killers. Le sigh. I believe two other states utilize the 7-day limit, but 3 days?? Really?? 

 
Heroin deaths are about to explode accross the US like never before, it will be the number one issue on all news and newspapers. This will be the worst epidemic to hit the US since HIV was found and named back in the 80s. When they ban kratom across the whole country, the DEA is going to ban it and when they do hundreds of thousands of addics are going to go back to heroin and many will overdose.

An all natural leaf is helping so many people with Heroin addiction it's sad money is more important than human life. The DEA along with the FDA are ruthless murderers. Let the blood of tens of thousands be on their hands!!!!!

Like the scriptures say "money is the root of all kinds of evil".  Evil people in high places, they know this will happen. Hard to believe humans could be this evil it's makes me sick to my stomach.

 
I was watching a program on TV last nite about the rapid increase in heroin usage skyrocketing over the last 12 months.

It was so sad to see these kids that had been scripted Oxys and other tabs, turn to smack because the doctors are no longer

prescribing the tabs that they used to and there now scoring smack at much cheaper prices than they were paying both

doctors and dealers for there Oxys!   Sad state of affairs indeed.. ☣️

Regards,  T.

 
All thats going to do is make people go from legal use to illegal use. So stupid. 

 
Heroin deaths are about to explode accross the US like never before, it will be the number one issue on all news and newspapers. This will be the worst epidemic to hit the US since HIV was found and named back in the 80s. When they ban kratom across the whole country, the DEA is going to ban it and when they do hundreds of thousands of addics are going to go back to heroin and many will overdose.

An all natural leaf is helping so many people with Heroin addiction it's sad money is more important than human life. The DEA along with the FDA are ruthless murderers. Let the blood of tens of thousands be on their hands!!!!!

Like the scriptures say "money is the root of all kinds of evil".  Evil people in high places, they know this will happen. Hard to believe humans could be this evil it's makes me sick to my stomach.
The scriptures do NOT say that money is the root of all evil. They say that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. There's nothing wrong with God's children having money. However, the G*dd*mn mother porking defuckinga is the farthest thing from a child of God that was EVER conceived. Look at how hard the devil works at keeping them in power. There's nothing like PAIN to perpetuate the devil's (and the government's) work. No bigger spiritual stew than keeping people away from their God by way of pain!

 
Oh, yeah. I think that the 3-day or 7-day time frame refers to post-procedure p@!n m3ds. 3 or 7 days after my last operation would have seen me literally jumping out the hospital window just to escape the p@!n. Chr0n!c p@!n patients needn't worry until next week, when even more draconian measures will come into play. Thumbscrews and cigar burns, anyone? How about for Gov. Scott...swallow some drano, asshole?

 
I personally have not seen any of this happening, I think its just another dumb idea trump has, if the pill is prescribed, the junkie will figure out how to get it, whether it be 3 days at a time or not. Hell, what junkie  can afford to buy 30 days at a time any way?

Not calling anyone hear a junkie,  but i would assume this is what its trying to alliminate, correct, reselling of meds? Correct me if i'm wrong

 
Florida Gov. Rick Scott announced a new proposal for a three-day limit on prescribed opioids in his state. Scott said Tuesday he will propose the legislation and more than $50 million to next year's budget to combat opioid abuse, WPTV reported.
The legislation would require all health care providers who prescribe or distribute medication to participate in the Florida Prescription Drug Monitoring Program, a statewide database that monitors prescriptions for controlled substances. The legislation includes reforms to combat unlicensed pain management clinics and require continuing education courses on responsibly prescribing opioids, and would also create new opportunities for federal grant funding, according to a statement from the governor's office.
A highlight of the legislation is a three-day limit on prescribed opioids, unless strict conditions are met that would require a seven-day supply.
The proposed $50 million budget would include funding for substance abuse treatment, counseling and recovery services, and The Florida Violent Crime and Drug Control Council.
"These proposals will make a major impact on limiting the chance of drug addiction, reducing the ability for dangerous drugs to spread in our communities, giving vulnerable Floridians the support they need, and ensuring our hard working law enforcement officers have the resources to protect Floridians," Scott said in a statement.
Scott declared the opioid epidemic in the state of Florida a public health emergency in May and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports deaths from prescription opioids and heroin have more than quadrupled since 1999.
Senate President Joe Negron and House Speaker Richard Corcoran are both supportive of the legislative. In a statement from the governor's office, both said they are committed to working to combat opioid abuse and are "dedicated to protecting our families and communities from the national opioid epidemic."
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-09-26/fl-gov-announces-3-day-limit-on-opioid-prescriptions?int=news-rec
All any government has to do is to look at Portugal and how the burglary and other drug related crime has significantly lowered ever since they decriminalised and legalised. It’s been a massive success & has allowed their government to fund other and more important issues. 

I could go on and wax lyrical on this topic but it’s bloody obvious, to me at least, that using so many resources to catching drug dealers & end users only ever has a bad conclusion. 

Sell and tax I say but, sadly, we are too apathetic to even start a campaign. I would gladly start but my worst disease has put pay to me being ever able to plan and follow up on the planning needed. 

I guess I could at least start a petition though. 

My GP has cut my Opiods by 2/3 but it’s actually been a good thing for me and I’ve lost 4 stones or 56 pounds in the process and feel much more energy. 

In the U.K. the laws have changed significantly and all doctors are now only allowed to give Opiods in genuine emergencies and only until handed over to specialists plus they have been given a remit to cut ALL of us opiod users to a minimum amount. That amount is 120mg. They truly believe that by using 120mg that this is the limit where giving more makes no difference but the irony is that I can have more ora or liquid opiod, for breakthrough pain. 

In closing, ultimately we get the government we deserve with apathy being our worst enemy

peacd

 
Heroin deaths are about to explode accross the US like never before, it will be the number one issue on all news and newspapers. This will be the worst epidemic to hit the US since HIV was found and named back in the 80s. When they ban kratom across the whole country, the DEA is going to ban it and when they do hundreds of thousands of addics are going to go back to heroin and many will overdose.

An all natural leaf is helping so many people with Heroin addiction it's sad money is more important than human life. The DEA along with the FDA are ruthless murderers. Let the blood of tens of thousands be on their hands!!!!!

Like the scriptures say "money is the root of all kinds of evil".  Evil people in high places, they know this will happen. Hard to believe humans could be this evil it's makes me sick to my stomach.
If you really want to get into some serious reading , on this and many other topics then read up on the Bilderberg group and their agenda.  They really don’t want us proles alive and have a plan to very literally kill many off by means of non intervention. 

 
The scriptures do NOT say that money is the root of all evil. They say that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. There's nothing wrong with God's children having money. However, the G*dd*mn mother porking defuckinga is the farthest thing from a child of God that was EVER conceived. Look at how hard the devil works at keeping them in power. There's nothing like PAIN to perpetuate the devil's (and the government's) work. No bigger spiritual stew than keeping people away from their God by way of pain!
I take it you have read the book of Job ? If drawn to it then read the apocryphal bible story of Tobit. Seems GOD likes to “test” us and, although I’m no bible expert, there are many cases where GOD puts his flock through absolute torture, to test their beliefs 

 
**Face Palms** What is wrong with this Oxymoronic Government ignorant to the true issues always at work and in play in life what the flippin flyin crouton eh? 

 
My new insurance will only cover my prescription for opiates if I go to the pharmacy once a week.

What is the benefit here? What am I missing? Do they hope that if they make it inconvenient enough we will just give up? 

So now that I have insurance I pay about  $70 more than when I was uninsured. How stupid is that?

 
@2earlsthis is so very sad. As if the Gov hasn’t scared enough competent doctors and entangled then in enough red tape. I was reading on Twitter about the Good RX card that many are using bc of this sort of thing. A celebrity was unable to get his meds so it was a long topic. Also can you choose to pay out of pocket? My pharmacy has done that for me when insurance won’t cover something. I’m so very sorry you have yet another obstacle.

 
Don't forget the fact that most people turning to H3r0in and or going on M3th@d0n3 M@int3n@nc3 Th3r@py are doing it simply due to a light addiction of like 40MG maybe 80MG of 0x y c0d0n3 Daily when they could probably easily get off of it I mean it's ridiculous people getting on it over a C 0d 31n3 H@b1t the sad part is. It has an NMDAr Antagonist Effect which is how it helps prevent tolerance and keep you at same dose daily but it is also affecting the part of your brain that learns new things, retains memory and cognitive Health which I saw a study saying that people on it have Cognitive decline way worse than what there age should be.


  That and other Scr1ptz I am using I have noticed a huge decline in my Cognitive function and if I told you my age u would be appalled but all 0p101ds cause cognitive incline which the reason for it is unsure. But you are all right about this being a very scary thing and leading down to a dangerous path that is going to destroy more lives... I would be surprised if saved any lives. 

 
Copying part from USA Today released 

[SIZE=27pt]Pain patients left in anguish by doctors 'terrified' of opioid addiction, despite CDC change[/SIZE]

[SIZE=13pt]Updated 4:33 pm EDT Jun. 24, 2019[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]New York resident Mickey Saxbury worked on a General Motors assembly line for 25 years before sharp, throbbing back pain from an on-the-job injury forced him to retire.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]A back operation failed. A device to block his pain gradually became ineffective. The only thing that’s consistently worked, he says, is pain medication. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]But a judge overseeing his New York State Workers Compensation Board disability case ordered that his opioids be sharply reduced.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]“They dropped me so far down that I can’t even get off the couch anymore,” said Saxbury, 61, who lives near Buffalo.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Chronic pain patients such as Saxbury are becoming increasingly vocal about what they say is a medical community that’s shutting them out. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued guidelines in 2016 to cut back prescriptions after years of liberal opioid dispensing contributed to addiction and overdose deaths. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Those guidelines not only influenced doctors – state regulators, health insurers and even disability administrators also have cited these federal guidelines to justify policies that limit pain pill prescriptions. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Last month, the CDC clarified its position, saying that the response to the opioid crisis went too far. In a New England Journal of Medicine editorial, a panel of experts cited examples such as inflexible thresholds on dosages, abrupt tapering and misapplication of the guidelines for people with cancer, sickle cell disease or recovering from surgery.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Dr. Joshua Sharfstein, a former health secretary of Maryland and health commissioner of Baltimore, said he supports how CDC's clarified guidelines reconcile the risk of opioids with their need.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"The right thing is to follow that balance," said Sharfstein, who is now a professor and vice dean at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The guidelines "shouldn’t be used as a kind of cudgel to reduce appropriate prescribing."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Chronic pain sufferers 'between a rock and a hard place'[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Many chronic pain patients question whether the revised policy will bring them relief. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Saxbury took a powerful opioid, oxycodone, to manage throbbing lower back that radiates down his left leg. His prescription remained steady for several years: 30 milligram pills, four times each day. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]But the New York State Workers Compensation Board, which oversees his case, tapped a medical expert to review Saxbury's medical chart. The expert, Dr. Chris Grammar, who never physically examined Saxbury, concluded he was being prescribed unsafe levels of opioids. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]In his report to the New York board, Grammar cited the state's non-acute pain medical treatment guidelines and CDC data on overdose deaths linked to opioid prescriptions. He added that Saxbury's pain doctor's high-dose opioid prescriptions are "no longer supported."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"This is not to be critical of his treating physician as this approach is relatively new," Grammar wrote. "However, in the absence of functional improvement, this patient is undergoing extraordinary risk with little benefit."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]A judge agreed and ordered Saxbury's pain medication reduced. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Based on the judge's decision, Saxbury said his doctor cut his daily pain prescription by half. He cannot muster the energy or tolerance to do many daily activities. And his planned move to Arizona to escape a cold climate that makes his pain worse and live near family seems more daunting than ever. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Saxbury said he has unsuccessfully pleaded with his doctor to reconsider the pain pill reduction. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"My pain-management doctor said they cannot give me the medication because they could lose their license," Saxbury said. "I'm between a rock and a hard place."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Grammar declined to discuss the specifics of Saxbury's case with USA TODAY. But, in general, he said medical evidence does not support long-term opioid use for chronic pain patients. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]He said pharmaceutical companies such as OxyContin maker PurduePharma have not proved in medical studies that long-term opioid use alleviates chronic pain.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Patients who have become dependent on opioids now feel scapegoated as more doctors scrutinize the use of the pain medications. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"With few exceptions, the patients are innocent," Grammar said. "They're not writing the prescriptions."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]State laws created a 'chilling effect' on pain prescriptions[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]States have responded to the addiction crisis by passing laws that aim to reduce opioid prescriptions.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]As of October 2018, 33 states have passed laws that limit or impose requirements on opioid prescriptions, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Most of these states limited initial pain pill fills to seven days, with some states imposing even more aggressive cutbacks that limit fills to three or five days. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Last July, Florida passed a law requiring physicians to register as chronic pain clinics to prescribe more than three days worth of opioids. Dr. Melanie Rosenblatt, who is a pain doctor and certified in addiction medicine, said the law has had a "chilling effect" on prescribing. Many of her new patients were dropped by their former physicians or "would doctor shop until they got what they want."  [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Federal statistics show total U.S. opioid prescriptions have declined each year since 2012. However, that trend accelerated since the CDC issued guidelines.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Total prescribing dropped from 46 billion morphine milligram equivalents in March 2016 to 32 billion morphine milligram equivalents in September 2018. MMEs are a measure of the amount and potency of opioids. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]John Downey, a pain doctor in Augusta, Georgia, argues that the "damage has been done" from restrictive state laws and reluctant prescribers. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Family doctors who fear disciplinary action from medical boards have dropped chronic pain patients. Those pain patients have crowded the lobbies of pain clinics seeking relief.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Downey served a three-year term on the Georgia Medical Board through mid-2018 and chaired the board's pain committee. He told colleagues he was not interested in another term because his medical practice was so busy with patients turned away by other doctors.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]One Monday morning, he had 50 referrals for new patients "just because doctors are saying they are fed up," Downey said.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]While he was on the medical board, he developed a point-based worksheet for family doctors who treated pain patients. The goal: Help doctors determine whether pain patients are willing to complete therapy and try non-opioid therapies such as injections, rather than only seeking pain pills.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Medical board investigators who see patients taking the same prescription every month might see signs of abusive prescribing or a "pill mill," said Downey.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]But he said such patients often are able to maintain regular activities such as working, spending time with family or going to church.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"From a pain perspective, that is a well-managed patient,"  Downey said. "They are stable."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Doctors are 'terrified of addiction'[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Sharfstein, the former health secretary of Maryland, said "there's been a big whiplash" as doctors react to the opioid epidemic which was fueled by years of permissive prescribing.  [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"Doctors were told they should treat pain as much as possible and now might be hearing the message they they could get in trouble for any opioids," he said.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Sharfstein and his wife, Dr. Yngvild Olsen, an addiction medicine physician, wrote the book [/SIZE][SIZE=16pt]The Opioid Epidemic: What Everyone Needs to Know[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt]. In it, they argue that doctors need to be trained to detect and treat addiction. Most medical residency programs don't teach how to care for patients who misuse substances.  [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]An epidemic and its response: [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Feds issue new warning to doctors: Don't skimp too much on opioid pain pills[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Did the crackdown on opioid prescriptions go too far? Here's why doctors are reconsidering.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]'Deaths of despair' from drugs, alcohol and suicide hit young adults hardest[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Naloxone can reverse opioid overdoses, but does the drug belong in elementary schools?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Doctors are "terrified of addiction and need to understand it and treat it," said Sharfstein. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Garrett Greene, 27, was dropped as a patient by his pain management doctor last month. He said the doctor told him he wasn't comfortable seeing a cystic fibrosis patient. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Greene said he was taking about a 90 milligram dose of the opiod Percocet every day to control pain since he had surgery seven years ago after his left lung collapsed twice. He's had many other surgeries and blood clots.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"I spent the better part of my twenties cooped up in the hospital watching firsthand how this monster of a disease can rear its ugly head," said Greene. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Late last month, Greene went through what he calls "a horrific detox" while he was "losing my mind" trying to find a new pain doctor. When he found Rosenblatt, she switched him to buprenorphine, which is also an opiate but one that is used to help wean people off heroin and other opioids. Percocet, said Greene, wasn't good for his lungs long term and could suppress his breathing.  [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Rosenblatt finds she often has to change new clients to longer-acting opioids, as well as combinations of physical therapy, antidepressants, muscle relaxants and therapy to help improve sleep. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]"Most of the time it works out really well and there is a silver lining in many cases because people get the appropriate specialist," said Rosenblatt. "For other people, not so much, because they go through crazy withdrawal after doctors just cut them off, go to jail or retire with no exit plan." [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb said regulators “arguably had to play catch up” with the opioid crisis, which he calls the “biggest public health crisis in modern history.”[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]Regulators “had to take dramatic action to intervene,” he said. “It was inevitable there were going to be public health consequences at the margins.”[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]As for doctors, they have been “overshooting in both directions” – first over- and now often under-prescribing.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]“You are seeing doctors too reluctant” to prescribe opioid painkillers now, said Gottlieb, now a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. “It was inevitable they were going to land there."[/SIZE]

Reach the reporters at alltuck@usatoday.commailto: or jodonnel@usatoday.com.

[SIZE=13pt]Originally Published 3:54 pm EDT Jun. 24, 2019[/SIZE]

[SIZE=13pt]**Updated 4:33 pm EDT Jun. 24, 2019**[/SIZE]

 
See...this is just insane! My PM dr has me on the lowest dose possible of my meds and I’ve been on that same puny dose for 3 yrs. The first time I asked him about upping my dosage, he said he couldn’t b/c he has to explain his exact reasons for prescribing the tiny amt he does and he said he would get in trouble for prescribing anymore. And also said that in this state (a southern one), drs aren’t allowed to prescribe more than 90 mg of the morphine equivalent thing. The 2nd & last time I asked...a few months ago...he said that I’m not building a tolerance to the meds b/c it’s VERY rare that patients build up a tolerance and it only happens to about 7% of the world’s population. 

Just insane! Less meds are being prescribed yet there are more deaths & OD’s than ever before b/c ppl are being ridiculously under-prescribed and HAVE to supplement from somewhere, just in order to have any resemblance whatsoever to a functional life. 

 
Good news for our fellow vendors!  With that bit of constructive criticism out of the way ,yeah this is complete Bs. Same sobs who took "donations " from the lobbyists years ago to not regulate and now it's come full circle and we get fucked for it.  Now we got a fent crisis going on and ppl seeking new sources for drugs they legitimately need due to this tragic situation.  

Typical knee jerk reactions never fucking work. Why does history keep repeating/rhyming itself over these issues!!

 
You are 1000% correct @bdrc36!!! They went from one extreme (around 5-7 yrs ago when they gave out everything like they were tic-tacs, whether they had a legit reason for them at all) to the other (how it is now...under-pre$cribiNg like a mofo for the ones with a legit reason for them)!! 

What still amazes me...or rather, it pisses me off...is that I know people who can still get $cripts for all kinds of shit and have a freaking sprained ankle, or something extremely acute like that. Yet, for someone like me, who has bins (plural) loaded down w/medical records and cases of cd’s of MRI’s, CT’s, x-rays, etc, who legit needs something in order to be able to dress myself and even just move, I have to fight every freaking time to get the lowest dose possible of any med and I’m ALWAYS seen as a “dRuG s€€ker” (although I have never gone to multiple drs for meds, I’ve never dr shopped, or anything like that, to even make them think that’s all I want)...no matter what!! They look at my age and literally tell me “you’re too young to be in that much pain” or “you’re too young to have all this wrong with you”, yet it’s there in black & white that I have numerous, upon numerous issues. And I’ve told every single dr (and I’ve seen close to 100 in the past decades) that if they would just fix one or two of my issues, that I wouldn’t need to take this shit. 

And now, we’re getting even MORE fucked over!!! Will this shit ever end?? When will the g0vt and ag€nci€$ and drs realize that there ARE ppl who really & truly need these things long term to just be able to do something? It really does get depressing and scary when you think about the future and how things are going to be in a year or 5 yrs or 10 yrs. 

 
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