thanks @PTFC, I have been playing with iops for a while, I used to just read through other forums, but there comes a point where I feel like I need to contribute a bit of knowledge, especially when all we are trying to do is make sure we take care of ourselves safely, I will definitely share all the insight I can, but want to read more first so as to not duplicate things anyone knows already. Thanks again to all for hosting this great place, and thanks PTFC