ODSMT VS NORCO

Rollinbowlin

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Can't get the latter..interested in osdsmt. Is it comparable? Can you achieve a Norco like feeling?

Ty in advance I can't let my buddy blow all his money on these norcs anymore. Dude needs help. And his plug just said he's gonna run low. Can't have him lose his job and don't want him getting fent somehow.

Ty for any advice
 
basically, odmst = somewhat more potent tramadol in terms of overall effects.*

norco = vicodin = acetomenaphin + hydrocodone

in terms of abuse potential, you'll get far better value for the buck with more acceptable safety margins using odmst. there are a handful of more dangerous and more addictive synthetic opioids that may be cheaper but none have a vetted safety profile anywhere near that of tramadol/odmst.

in terms of pain relief, tramadol provides somewhat less pain relief than norco per equivalent dose with more direct side effects, namely more nausea in those not habituated to opioids.

*i'm oversimplifying and i'm not an expert in these chems.
 
And tramadol is shit btw. So I'll steer clear. Weak ass opioid SSRI hybrid. Can't imagine wding from that. I guess people literally scream in horror. Imagine an opioid wd mixed with an mdma comedown only it lasts longer.

I have to dig deeper to see how it compares to odsmt because it does seem similar. Tramadol has all sorts of seizure risks. Nasty. Probably works pretty well for very moderate pain management but so does a hundred other ones.
 
basically, odmst = somewhat more potent tramadol in terms of overall effects.*

norco = vicodin = acetomenaphin + hydrocodone

in terms of abuse potential, you'll get far better value for the buck with more acceptable safety margins using odmst. there are a handful of more dangerous and more addictive synthetic opioids that may be cheaper but none have a vetted safety profile anywhere near that of tramadol/odmst.

in terms of pain relief, tramadol provides somewhat less pain relief than norco per equivalent dose with more direct side effects, namely more nausea in those not habituated to opioids.

*i'm oversimplifying and i'm not an expert in these chems.
Odsmt love
 
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