ODSMT with kratom tolerance

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So in the past month I have bought 25 grams of odsmt from multiple approved RC vendors. The first day I took 175mg over the course of 4 hours orally. I didn't feel a thing. I should say the last time I took odsmt was back in 2021. With a tolerance of 20 to 35 grams of kratom a day I could still feel odsmt even at 25mg the next day. I recently started 7oh, in the past month every weekend I would take between 60 to 90mg until its effects started to lessen and I would quit so I wasn't wasting money and product.

Yesterday I took 100mg odsmt from a different vendor and again I didn't feel anything and this was from abstaining from kratom for a day. Has the quality of odsmt plummeted? Or is it possibly the 7oh causing a massive increase in cross tolerance? I have been a daily user of kratom for 8 years and when my tolerance became dumb I would switch over to odsmt for a few weeks until the bag was done and I would still get effects at low doses orally. I know the best way is to boof it but I have never had to. Anyone else experienced this?
 
I’ve heard 7-oh to be quite potent, but I’ve never tried myself. I’m a daily 0D$ user and my dose is kept under/around 100 and being at that level is making it hard to even feel (real) Oh-Cee 40s, unless I 👃or 💨 it.

I can’t speak for the pot£ncy of the 0D$ as I just started this year, but I found sub-50 em-gee to be a very good(strong) starting point after quitting Subway maintenance(T should’ve been at or very close to baseline). It’s taken months to work up to 80-100/day. I 100% still feel/nod.

I know for a fact high kratom doses will completely fuck 0pi tol’s. It takes more than a day-2 abstinence to reduce your T, so maybe try maintaining W/Ds with very low dose Kratom or 0D$(like 25) for a week-2 before attempting a larger(but not too large as it’ll likely end up being too much - I’d say 60-80 max) d0s€ and see if you have a different result then.
 
I also take 7 every day and get no effect from odmst, at least not at any conventional dose.

In fact, not too long ago I ate legit 80mg bean and barely felt anything. And that's with having no other opioid tolerance save 7oh.

This shit is a tolerance wrecking ball, for sure.
 
So everything that I have read would lead me to believe that the 7-OH tolerance is the reason why ODSMT didn’t work for ya. At those dosages, you should have felt something even with an insane tolerance. I would think that after few days off of 7-oh (or even cutting the 7-oh and replace with odm right away) it would begin to be effective.

I have read numerous random comments saying it took like a week to get back after using 7-oh in very high amounts so I am not sure on timeline but I would think a few days would be enough.

I like your dosing method as well and follow something similar 🙂
 
Sasa667 said:
So in the past month I have bought 25 grams of odsmt from multiple approved RC vendors. The first day I took 175mg over the course of 4 hours orally. I didn't feel a thing. I should say the last time I took odsmt was back in 2021. With a tolerance of 20 to 35 grams of kratom a day I could still feel odsmt even at 25mg the next day. I recently started 7oh, in the past month every weekend I would take between 60 to 90mg until its effects started to lessen and I would quit so I wasn't wasting money and product.

Yesterday I took 100mg odsmt from a different vendor and again I didn't feel anything and this was from abstaining from kratom for a day. Has the quality of odsmt plummeted? Or is it possibly the 7oh causing a massive increase in cross tolerance? I have been a daily user of kratom for 8 years and when my tolerance became dumb I would switch over to odsmt for a few weeks until the bag was done and I would still get effects at low doses orally. I know the best way is to boof it but I have never had to. Anyone else experienced this?
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7oh is massively mess up you Odsmt tolerance, when I was taking 15mg a day 7oh I needed 90-100mg of the best quality Odsmt.

Before I only needed 35mg Odsmt max, try to taper and you’ll probably need a week without 7oh in your system for the Odsmt to start getting back to normal dosages.
 
Yaugae5121 said:
So everything that I have read would lead me to believe that the 7-OH tolerance is the reason why ODSMT didn’t work for ya. At those dosages, you should have felt something even with an insane tolerance. I would think that after few days off of 7-oh (or even cutting the 7-oh and replace with odm right away) it would begin to be effective.

I have read numerous random comments saying it took like a week to get back after using 7-oh in very high amounts so I am not sure on timeline but I would think a few days would be enough.

I like your dosing method as well and follow something similar 🙂
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Even using 7oh in low amounts I need 90-100mg of pure high quality Odsmt, I have the strongest batch I’ve ever had and 25-35mg before trying 7oh would have me good. Now I need 7 days+ off to feel it right.
 
Yeah I figured because that's the only variable that has changed. So I stayed off of 7oh for 3 weeks and tried again. I still received no effect other than withdrawals gone after a few hours after dosing 100mg. Seems like I have tolerance I didn't know I had which is unfortunate because odsmt is my favorite RC outside of psychs.
 
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You might try boofing the ODSMT. Bypassing your digestive system could potentially help a lot.
 
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