Pis4 lab - 30mg m0rph1ne

[Jiub1]

Hello dbg, 

Hope all is well with everyone. 

Just curious if anyone has tried/has experience with the Pis4 lab 30 mg m0rph1ne? 

Just ordered those and trying to get an idea of quality & comparable strength to 20mg oksies

Thank you! 

Jiub 

 

[Jiub1]

So I've tried these now and they are unmarked white pills but I tested it and no fent. 

They were the real deal. M0rph1ne is extremely enjoyable but I need to stay clear of it now and back to tapentadol. Tapentadol I can take 12-14 days and than break from it for 5 days and I have no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. M0rph1ne I took 7 days and 5 day break and had very mild 2-3 days of withdrawal, diraheea, running nose, fatigue, sleepiness etc & strength wise the 30mg m0rph1ne is same pain relief as 100mg tapentadol. Maybe a bit more of the warm/fuzzy feeling but tapentadol gets me euphoria too. 

Kind regards, 

Jiub 

 

[BellaDonna]

@Jiub1I noticed you mentioned tap.  In your experience,was it more like hydro/trams (where it gives you a bit of energy) or more like oxy (where you are more relaxed)?  

 

[Jiub1]

@BellaDonna tap has become my main pain reliefer and I have taken over 400 of them in the last 9 months. I would compare it closer to 0xy, more relaxed. Hydro is my all time favorite, but very very hard to find. Although it isn't as relaxing as oxy. I'd say it's in between. It still gives me some energy. M0rph1ne on the other hand put me to sleep, but I might have been taking to many, it's very enjoyable and hard to control for me. 

The biggest surprise to me was that I can take tap twice as long as 0xy or m0rph1ne and have no withdrawal symptoms during my week break. As with the other mentioned ones I get mild withdrawal after 7-9 days of use. The pain relief is identical for my pain and so tap is my 2nd favorite. Nothing beats hydro unfortunately

Regards, 

Jiub 

 

[BellaDonna]

@Jiub1I agree, nothing beats hydro.  I was a bit afraid to try tap; I've read horror stories about it.  And, you never know what is truth vs. fiction.  But, your comments made me rethink my situation.  I appreciate your honesty and you taking the time to write your experiences. Thank you.

 

[Jiub1]

@BellaDonna absolutely! &just out of curiosity, what are some of the horror stories? When I tried tap, I couldn't find to much info. I've tried, tram, DHC, c0deine, tap, 0xy, hydr0, m0rph1ne & out of all tap has the least side effects during my use (I take 4 a day) except for my week break, that way I don't get withdrawals if I'm out. I learned the hard way over many years of being stuck to having to take them just to feel normal, for 4 months now I have been successful in taking them with a week break after 12-14 days. I used to take 0xy to the point where with tap i would reach its ceiling effect (around 500mg is taps ceiling) but with the breaks 4 is more than enough for no pain and also that euphoric feeling. Honestly out of all those my least favorite is tram & 0xy. 0xy is to expensive, the side effects are strong and so are the withdrawals, tram I barely noticed the pain relief. I'm just happy that tap even exists. None of the other can I take more than 7 days before I have to break for a week + mild withdrawal. I was shocked I could take tap 12 days and zero withdrawal. 

Regards, 

Jiub 

 

[BellaDonna]

@Jiub1I have read where people have been severely dizzy, had seizures (but, wondered if this was at all true), insomnia, and in terms of withdrawal, horrendous -- way worse than oxy, which is mainly why I didn't want to try it.  Someone said going from tram to tap was like going from the frying pan into a fire?  I don't know, it seemed no one had any good experiences.  I've taken a variety of meds, as well.  DHC was okay, I took too much my first go-around and nodded out -- completely.  Then tried in small amounts, it gave me headaches, a little pep, but I sleep well with it.  It's just :"okay".   I can only take it in the evenings.  Tram was only good for energy/mood effects, it did crap for my pain.  It's so hard to find the right combo: hydro was it for me -- and damn it, can't get it anywhere.  I was all set to try tap -- until I read reviews.

 

[Jiub1]

@BellaDonna thank you for listing those! That's definitely interesting. I wonder if the people reporting that started with tram. I've used the heavy 0pis for years before trying tap and find it mostly superior, except hydr0's of course. 

It's definitely not a weak, go to for beginners. Unless someone is used to taking 20mg 0xy ir, I wouldn't even recommend tap 100mg. I sleep well on it and the reason I like it so much is because it's the lowest withdrawal on scale of the other strong 0pis. Tram I can't get sufficient pain relief so I stopped counting it as an 0pi. 

I would definitely not say tap is a "glorified tram" as it's more of a strong 0pi that I class with the other strong ones. After 1 week of 0xy or m0rph1ne, I suffer 2-3 days of mild withdrawal and I don't experience that at all with taps. 

Regards, 

Jiub