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In light of these highly publicized and childish attacks perpetrated against us, we want to enlighten a little bit about shipping/tracking ect info. Dos and don’ts, FUD, and how the USPS system works.
- To begin, addresses are the number one reason that their is issues.
As a customer:
-NEVER USE a fake name. Do not use an abandoned house! Do not use your next door neighbor who just moved out! Now we aren’t going to share our secrets for drops but we have 6-7 diff drop addresses at ALL times.
- As a consumer you are BEST off using your REAL name and address. Guys, this is just a normal package coming to you. You ordered some make up, a book, or a video game right? This is just one of MILLIONS that flow every week. Okay?
- So, you did your part- now it’s up to the vendor. What are they doing? Vendors: STOP using fake businesses. Your not smart your not cute. Your not getting one over on the system.
- Stop using sexual predators non stop! Yes, this is a huge way vendors get return addresses, criminals and sexual predators with public addresses. Guess what? USPS has caught on to this. They will notice this routine eventually!
- Their are 3 states that you can create an LLC easily, every other state if you don’t have a legit business, Vendors-
Stop you have no clue what your doing. Even if it’s part of a strip mall, stop! You cannot just put Bobs Card shop and a strip mall address and suite! You really think USPS investigators have not become hip to this!? Seriously? Your putting yourself and your customers in danger!
- Again we aren’t going to give away our techniques but please research and if you really need help come see us on Delta Chat, we will help you create a system.
- Admittedly I will share that we have switched almost exclusively to low profile shippers and mailers. As most know except for times like tonight when we are expressing away for our clientele to get them their goods before thanksgiving…- on a normal day we don’t touch usps mailers. We use all our own equipment, we use different mailers every day of the week and we have different legit return addresses to match that we funnel out biweekly. This means, envelopes, bubble mailers, white, black , green, tan. We have our own 6 x 4 boxes that are 1 inch thick.
- Never hand write an address or accept a vendor that hand writes, this would be astronomically dumb at this stage in the game.
- Most legit shippers don’t use usps envelopes non stop. We use our own, every single pack is very neat and orderly, has a professional label printed of course and to anyone
looking there is nothing to be concerned about.
- Stealth is done in different ways, a lot of times for small orders we pack to make it paper thin, why? Because our blue boxes here do not accept anything else and because it is not concerning to investigators. It appears to be a tiny package, very little weight, return and drop address match! and do not flag the system in any way and just keep it moving.
- Any of our customers know that no matter the item at a minimum: what are you getting? Mylar, then vac sealed. Then usually a special stealth Mylar we use and then another packaging technique I won’t publicize. Then possibly a poly mailer into a small bubble mailer and then into its home mailer or box. Obviously other stealth is used depending on order.
- Now Boxes? If your vendor is using boxes all the time what does that mean? It means
A - he’s putting you in danger , bc he/she is walking into a post office everyday on camera and dropping your goods. Look up how vendors are caught guys?!! At least 50% of the time it how they drop packs. Anyone know of Opiateconnect369? This was a monster vendor that was caught bc they had 2 girls literally bringing in bags full of orders and dropping them inside the post office.
- Guess what happened? Yup notice was taken of course. They used multiple POs but their packaging was always the same. So they were profiled and all packs were followed for weeks until they had what they wanted as far as investigating and Boom. Cya OC369 Prison for a long ass time.
B- the only alternative is they have blue boxes that can still fit usps boxes. A couple states maybe All other blue boxes only accept paper thin mailers now! (Could be some they haven’t changed still)
- As a vendor you should NEVER step foot inside a post office. Sometimes it will take 1-2 days to get picked up, eventually we explain and customers understand we are keeping us and them SAFE! We drop in blue boxes that are scoped out, have no cameras, and we rotate and have a system, never more than a certain number of orders per box.
- Consumers, to continue your vendor should NEVER be giving you tracking. We got stupid, and started giving out tracking to new customers on their first order. You get a moron like (xxxxxx) who has no clue about the game and creates havoc bc he is freaking out over nothing. This is why he was not ever given a tracking. He had it on ID. But this caused several other customers to have a “freak out” moment until we all saw what happened. Every pack moved today just like we said. So we are done being STUPID and breaking our rules.
- As a customer it is your responsibility to have Informed Delivery and to be able to locate your packs at all times. If not, it’s NOT the VENDORS problem.
- Ready for this? Recent enlightenment we found on dread, consumers are now getting a flag at the top of the screen after excessive viewing of tracking. Yup true story. Research it.
- Okay now lost packs? When does it become time to get concerned. I can tell you 100% the time for you to be concerned is when you see a pack that sits day after day and says “arriving late in transit”. It stays just like that for a week or so? Clear your fucking house okay? This is when a little afterwards you see “SEIZED” in bright red letters on informed delivery.
- Now maybe your getting a big boy pack or your ordering shit like crazy from stupid vendors with bad opsec: THIS IS THE TIME WHERE YOU GET A CONTROLLED DELIVERY. Choose and research your vendors smart folks. Do they know what they are doing? We do the same for clients, There is a reason we don’t accept maybe 20-30% of clients that want to work with us. They are either stupid, heavily addicted, or downright insulting or have mental issues. And we CUT that rope right away, you guys have seen us refund time after time if we notice someone barred out constantly ect we aren’t selling you opiates ect or ANYTHING BC YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE (Ket Carson).
- Controlled deliveries - so if you’re being unsafe as a consumer or have a bad vendor whatever- the result will be an abnormality. You start having packs take longer? Eventually you see a different post man come up to your door and knock to give you a package? DO NOT ANSWER. Maybe they leave it outside your door. (Usually) What are they waiting on? They are waiting for you to open up and take that package into your own hands and open it and give away your full deniability. You get into a situation like that? You open your door, kick that package aside and keep it moving. Eventually you look at it bizarrely and write return to sender on that thing no matter how valuable it is to you. Is it worth prison?
- You get a notice to come to the post office to pick up your shit? Do NOT go. Maybe it’s nothing, but is it worth it? Hell no, no drug is.
- as a consumer you should only have ONE PACK coming to your drop at a time, this is so if that pack gets snagged? Then you don’t have 5 others snagged too.
- This is why we only drop a certain amt per blue box and we use so many different packaging styles. Right? So we can avoid being profiled.
- Lastly I’m going to leave you guys with this. What’s plausible deniability? Guarantee only a handful have a clue. This is full plausible deniability.
-Tails/whonix/Qubes Os run on a fully clean computer (Linux is the gold standard) off of home WiFi. It’s a shame I swear as a team we have 12 fucking laptops. Bc we’re paranoid and safe.
-Next, you use a tor browser or VPN. (Obviously tor if your using those OS systems) you do not use a VPN while on tor. NEWSFLASH Yes that’s the best way.
- PGP encryption on everything to do with you, (address and order details )
-Payment - Monero - XMR. BTC is a link right back to you! It sucks that we are forced to accept it but we can’t get everyone on the same page and people just don’t care.
- If you’re not doing this at a minimum? You do NOT have plausible deniability. I see a lot of confusion around this.
- Now small timers and small time purchasers if your smart do you need all this? Prob not. The fucking DEA ain’t coming after 5 g of ODSMT okay? Just be smart.
- I’m not even going to talk label making yet but that’s a whole another story for another day.
Hopefully this helps.
Thanks
-P
- To begin, addresses are the number one reason that their is issues.
As a customer:
-NEVER USE a fake name. Do not use an abandoned house! Do not use your next door neighbor who just moved out! Now we aren’t going to share our secrets for drops but we have 6-7 diff drop addresses at ALL times.
- As a consumer you are BEST off using your REAL name and address. Guys, this is just a normal package coming to you. You ordered some make up, a book, or a video game right? This is just one of MILLIONS that flow every week. Okay?
- So, you did your part- now it’s up to the vendor. What are they doing? Vendors: STOP using fake businesses. Your not smart your not cute. Your not getting one over on the system.
- Stop using sexual predators non stop! Yes, this is a huge way vendors get return addresses, criminals and sexual predators with public addresses. Guess what? USPS has caught on to this. They will notice this routine eventually!
- Their are 3 states that you can create an LLC easily, every other state if you don’t have a legit business, Vendors-
Stop you have no clue what your doing. Even if it’s part of a strip mall, stop! You cannot just put Bobs Card shop and a strip mall address and suite! You really think USPS investigators have not become hip to this!? Seriously? Your putting yourself and your customers in danger!- Again we aren’t going to give away our techniques but please research and if you really need help come see us on Delta Chat, we will help you create a system.
- Admittedly I will share that we have switched almost exclusively to low profile shippers and mailers. As most know except for times like tonight when we are expressing away for our clientele to get them their goods before thanksgiving…- on a normal day we don’t touch usps mailers. We use all our own equipment, we use different mailers every day of the week and we have different legit return addresses to match that we funnel out biweekly. This means, envelopes, bubble mailers, white, black , green, tan. We have our own 6 x 4 boxes that are 1 inch thick.
- Never hand write an address or accept a vendor that hand writes, this would be astronomically dumb at this stage in the game.
- Most legit shippers don’t use usps envelopes non stop. We use our own, every single pack is very neat and orderly, has a professional label printed of course and to anyone
looking there is nothing to be concerned about. - Stealth is done in different ways, a lot of times for small orders we pack to make it paper thin, why? Because our blue boxes here do not accept anything else and because it is not concerning to investigators. It appears to be a tiny package, very little weight, return and drop address match! and do not flag the system in any way and just keep it moving.
- Any of our customers know that no matter the item at a minimum: what are you getting? Mylar, then vac sealed. Then usually a special stealth Mylar we use and then another packaging technique I won’t publicize. Then possibly a poly mailer into a small bubble mailer and then into its home mailer or box. Obviously other stealth is used depending on order.
- Now Boxes? If your vendor is using boxes all the time what does that mean? It means
A - he’s putting you in danger , bc he/she is walking into a post office everyday on camera and dropping your goods. Look up how vendors are caught guys?!! At least 50% of the time it how they drop packs. Anyone know of Opiateconnect369? This was a monster vendor that was caught bc they had 2 girls literally bringing in bags full of orders and dropping them inside the post office.
- Guess what happened? Yup notice was taken of course. They used multiple POs but their packaging was always the same. So they were profiled and all packs were followed for weeks until they had what they wanted as far as investigating and Boom. Cya OC369 Prison for a long ass time.
B- the only alternative is they have blue boxes that can still fit usps boxes. A couple states maybe All other blue boxes only accept paper thin mailers now! (Could be some they haven’t changed still)
- As a vendor you should NEVER step foot inside a post office. Sometimes it will take 1-2 days to get picked up, eventually we explain and customers understand we are keeping us and them SAFE! We drop in blue boxes that are scoped out, have no cameras, and we rotate and have a system, never more than a certain number of orders per box.
- Consumers, to continue your vendor should NEVER be giving you tracking. We got stupid, and started giving out tracking to new customers on their first order. You get a moron like (xxxxxx) who has no clue about the game and creates havoc bc he is freaking out over nothing. This is why he was not ever given a tracking. He had it on ID. But this caused several other customers to have a “freak out” moment until we all saw what happened. Every pack moved today just like we said. So we are done being STUPID and breaking our rules.
- As a customer it is your responsibility to have Informed Delivery and to be able to locate your packs at all times. If not, it’s NOT the VENDORS problem.
- Ready for this? Recent enlightenment we found on dread, consumers are now getting a flag at the top of the screen after excessive viewing of tracking. Yup true story. Research it.
- Okay now lost packs? When does it become time to get concerned. I can tell you 100% the time for you to be concerned is when you see a pack that sits day after day and says “arriving late in transit”. It stays just like that for a week or so? Clear your fucking house okay? This is when a little afterwards you see “SEIZED” in bright red letters on informed delivery.
- Now maybe your getting a big boy pack or your ordering shit like crazy from stupid vendors with bad opsec: THIS IS THE TIME WHERE YOU GET A CONTROLLED DELIVERY. Choose and research your vendors smart folks. Do they know what they are doing? We do the same for clients, There is a reason we don’t accept maybe 20-30% of clients that want to work with us. They are either stupid, heavily addicted, or downright insulting or have mental issues. And we CUT that rope right away, you guys have seen us refund time after time if we notice someone barred out constantly ect we aren’t selling you opiates ect or ANYTHING BC YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE (Ket Carson).
- Controlled deliveries - so if you’re being unsafe as a consumer or have a bad vendor whatever- the result will be an abnormality. You start having packs take longer? Eventually you see a different post man come up to your door and knock to give you a package? DO NOT ANSWER. Maybe they leave it outside your door. (Usually) What are they waiting on? They are waiting for you to open up and take that package into your own hands and open it and give away your full deniability. You get into a situation like that? You open your door, kick that package aside and keep it moving. Eventually you look at it bizarrely and write return to sender on that thing no matter how valuable it is to you. Is it worth prison?
- You get a notice to come to the post office to pick up your shit? Do NOT go. Maybe it’s nothing, but is it worth it? Hell no, no drug is.
- as a consumer you should only have ONE PACK coming to your drop at a time, this is so if that pack gets snagged? Then you don’t have 5 others snagged too.
- This is why we only drop a certain amt per blue box and we use so many different packaging styles. Right? So we can avoid being profiled.
- Lastly I’m going to leave you guys with this. What’s plausible deniability? Guarantee only a handful have a clue. This is full plausible deniability.
-Tails/whonix/Qubes Os run on a fully clean computer (Linux is the gold standard) off of home WiFi. It’s a shame I swear as a team we have 12 fucking laptops. Bc we’re paranoid and safe.
-Next, you use a tor browser or VPN. (Obviously tor if your using those OS systems) you do not use a VPN while on tor. NEWSFLASH Yes that’s the best way.
- PGP encryption on everything to do with you, (address and order details )
-Payment - Monero - XMR. BTC is a link right back to you! It sucks that we are forced to accept it but we can’t get everyone on the same page and people just don’t care.
- If you’re not doing this at a minimum? You do NOT have plausible deniability. I see a lot of confusion around this.
- Now small timers and small time purchasers if your smart do you need all this? Prob not. The fucking DEA ain’t coming after 5 g of ODSMT okay? Just be smart.
- I’m not even going to talk label making yet but that’s a whole another story for another day.
Hopefully this helps.
Thanks
-P
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