the 7OH ban coming

junker

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I truly have enjoyed having 7OH around. I get less constipation, less noticeable respiratory depression and other undesirable side effects from it. On top of the federal ban, there is a bill to ban 7OH AND Kratom leaf in my state. It's going to be a real bitch when I finally do have to kick Suboxone. Anyone else a fan of 7OH that can join me in mourning the eventual loss of this molecule to ignorant power hungry government bureaucrats?
 
I have never tried pure 7-oh, Just kratom its self, I find it unsurprising the ban on 7-oh, due to the ease at which you can dose a large amount in a small few pills, It just screams Addiction and harm.

Whether that actually be the case of not, Thats how the powers that be see the drug.

Kratom leaf you need GRAMS to get high, But 7-oh one lil pill or even 1/2 a pill can be potent enough for some people.

I disagree with the ban and i can apply a simple mirror example, Michigan state Scheduled Gabapentin to SC4? I think it was, This caused a huge complication between patients and doctors trying to get people out of pain, Taking the one thing that works for alot of people for nerve pain got put behind bars per say.

What ended up happening was enough NP/CNA/DR's complained to the state that it was a huge burden to patients, It was not as addicting as people were making it out to be and the abuse potential was fairly negative.

The same needs to happen with 7-oh, People, Doctors, RN's ect need to stand up and fight for patients who have had almost all pain relief options stolen from them by threat of the DEA hovering over doctors telling them if they write too many scheduled prescriptions there gonna yank ya license.
 
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