TRRC 5-MAPB is actually 5-APB

[ReallyNow]

I had an assay done on material from TRRC. Their 5-MAPB HCl is actually 5-APB fumarate or maleate.  No wonder it is on sale!  Caveat emptor.

 

[DoomKitty]

Not surprising at all!!!  Could you post a copy of the results?  Also curious if you reached out to them with the assay and if they responded?  Stay safe everyone!

 

[ReallyNow]

Here's the 1H NMR of the 5-APB, which is clearly missing the N-Me for those who can read this stuff.

In addition there is a sharp singlet at 6.43 ppm, which seems to be from the salt, plausibly fumarate or maleate.

I just wrote to them and will update if they answer.

View attachment Analytical data of 5APB.pdf

 

[gardien]

Could be an error in synth or something like that. Not bad to have 5-APB at least, not that easy to get either but still the worst of vendor business practices to not deliver as advertised.

 

[SensoryDeprived]

I had an assay done on material from TRRC. Their 5-MAPB HCl is actually 5-APB fumarate or maleate.  No wonder it is on sale!  Caveat emptor.

I assume you're referring to the 99.9% batch and not the brown batch?

 

[ReallyNow]

I assume you're referring to the 99.9% batch and not the brown batch?

Correct.

 

[Tylenol]

Great, I have an order I'm waiting for with the white 5-MAPB batch and their 5-APB. 

I also had some 6-APB and 5-DBFPV in the same order.  With your other thread on the results of their 6-APB, I wonder what I will actually get. 

 

[porkandbeansboy]

@ReallyNow i want to truly thank you for letting me and all of us know this information. I was about to 0rder this and I can't thank you enough for letting me know as I'm not going to be 0rdering this product.

I'm probably never going to be 0rdering anything that I can get anywhere else. For example TRRC is literally the only place that I've been able to find N0rflurazepam which has been out of stock for long time now. I was told it will be restocked at the end of June which it also stated it would be restocked at the end of May though, who knows when it will be restocked.

 

[seasonal]

TRRC supposedly got their 5-MAPB from LL, right? So are we to believe that only TRRC mixed up the labeling, or is it likely that most of the "5-MAPB" out there now is really 5-APB?

 

[DoomKitty]

@ReallyNow Why does the chemical structure graphic look all weird and pixellated in the pdf?  It looks copy/pasted.

 

[ReallyNow]

TRRC supposedly got their 5-MAPB from LL, right? So are we to believe that only TRRC mixed up the labeling, or is it likely that most of the "5-MAPB" out there now is really 5-APB?

The actual LL stuff is fine. I had material from Rarechems, their retail partner, assayed and it was as advertised. This is a TRRC problem. 

 

[ReallyNow]

Also, in a different thread, Chemical Collective posted an NMR spectrum that LL sent them. It shows an N-methyl compound, unlike the material I was sent.

 

[seasonal]

Also, in a different thread, Chemical Collective posted an NMR spectrum that LL sent them. It shows an N-methyl compound, unlike the material I was sent.

Thanks for sharing this valuable info!

This really is the last straw for me personally regarding TRRC. If they can't even label their received shipments correctly, either they're incompetent or something more nefarious is going on. Disappointing. 

 

[seasonal]

@ReallyNow Did TRRC ever respond to your email about the mislabeling? 

 

[ReallyNow]

@ReallyNow Did TRRC ever respond to your email about the mislabeling? 

Yes, they basically said that it was impossible for it to be anything other than what was on the label.

NMR doesn't make mistakes though.  And I didn't send the sample to a lab that could have accidentally switched samples. The lab doesn't normally do drug testing and thus had no other samples on hand. 

 

[chicadee]

As a sleep apnea patient I freakin' love modafinil.  I prefer brand names such as provigil and I'm currently looking around.  Hopefully more doors will open when my payment for the email section goes through.  Last year there was an online pharmacy  that was listed here.  They had provigil from cephalon....best modafinil on earth.  I'm eager to get my hands on it again.

 

[chicadee]

Do I need to make a donation to find sources ? Haven’t been online for quite sometime.

many thanks!

 

[booms]

Do I need to make a donation to find sources ? Haven’t been online for quite sometime.

many thanks!

yes and you will be happy you did! PM me once you join if need any tips on your research. 

 

[Tylenol]

I currently have immediate access to TRRC's white 5-MAPB, 5-APB and 6-APB.  Visually the they are all very different from each other, with different colors and texture.  The 5-MAPB was very consistent with another batch I had received a while ago from a completely different vendor who only ships from and to NL residents.  I received this under special circumstances.

I think it is worth noting that the 5-MAPB has a solvent odor, which I if I remember correctly, Chemical Collective also commented on.

I'm willing to send in samples of each one to be NMR tested, however I do not know of any labs that will provide this service.