WTF is methyl K? Anyone try?

[sirchade]

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[SeaDonkey]

I've also started to see this title being offered by a couple of publishers I use. I think I'll try to pick up a pamphlet this week, would like to hear what other people think of the title!

 

[Kerby87]

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It’s good

 

[Cardinal2800]

Ummm respectfully I would disagree, if you are looking for a sleep aid maybe Ambien-ish then okay bc that’s what this is, Kerry have you tried it? Bc I know many who have.

 

[Mammasboi123]

It’s good

Any details you’d like to expand on?? Dose, duration, ROA, overall experience? Lol

 

[sirchade]

It’s good

Please elaborate. Is it a stimulation?

 

[sirchade]

Any details you’d like to expand on?? Dose, duration, ROA, overall experience? Lol

Yes please elaborate

 

[ontovzik]

This has gotten interesting. Turns out it probably is the methl K mentioned in the book phikal by shulginn. He tested it up to 100 mg, just to the point of activity, but no more. It's an amph derivative, falls in with md ma, md a, and the other stim/empath/psicodelic stuff. Any info that's available, dose, effects, etc. I'd love to hear.

 

[ontovzik]

Before I read this thread I hadn't seen it anywhere and would swear I'd never see it. Now I see it everywhere I look. Funny how that works.

I'm still waiting to hear from someone that's tried it. Considering the mystery involved I'm surprised there aren't samples available.

 

[TripTrey]

Well, I just got some in. When I first saw the name, I thought of bkmdma (methylone) but also ketamine. When I have AI analyze its chemical structure, it basically says it's similar to MXE--a more serotonergic Ketamine with longer duration. However, there's a wiki which confirms your suspicions that it's a MDMA/MDA like stimulant. Actually a bit of a let down for me as I need Ketamine-type effects.

If anyone knows of a vendor carrying something other than tilmetamine (DCK, MXPr, 2-fdck, etc) please let me know. I'm super bummed I didn't do more research and trust my intuition.

 

[ontovzik]

Well, I just got some in. When I first saw the name, I thought of bkmdma (methylone) but also ketamine. When I have AI analyze its chemical structure, it basically says it's similar to MXE--a more serotonergic Ketamine with longer duration. However, there's a wiki which confirms your suspicions that it's a MDMA/MDA like stimulant. Actually a bit of a let down for me as I need Ketamine-type effects.

If anyone knows of a vendor carrying something other than tilmetamine (DCK, MXPr, 2-fdck, etc) please let me know. I'm super bummed I didn't do more research and trust my intuition.

Somehow I get curious and let myself get sucked into finding answers for this sort of thing. I think I've got an idea what this stuff is but I spent more time than I wanted looking up info and reading about it. Then too much time writing. I think the likely answer is a manufacturer or shipper made a similar mistake as you did and it's something else, a 'different' methl K.

It could be something else but the strongest possibility is that it's bk-methl-k or β-Keto-Methylbenzodioxolylpentanamine. More commonly known as pentylone, a synthetic cathinone. Not one of the more popular ones. Or it's possible they wanted pentylone and the maker made methl k by mistake. It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.

As soon as I saw this stuff available it didn't make sense to me. Methl k has only been recorded as synthesized once before, 50 years ago. Possibly a few more times for a laugh but there's not much point. The ingredients could be whipped up into at least a dozen other recipes. Stuff that people are familiar with. That are well liked favorites. Or lesser known exotics that are unique and interesting. So why this?

The one recorded bioassay, at 100 mg, doesn't help things. Almost all the other stuff that's active in it's close family would produce a very noticeable to strong to too strong effect at that dosage. There's also close relatives that are bunk. In phikal the tester says, 'It had no effects. I was busy and too wound up and didn't sleep until 3 am, but this was probably unrelated to the methl k.' If it was someone naive to the effects of stims it's could be possible getting wound up and staying up late was an effect, only they were too inexperienced to notice.

That's very unlikely, it's probably Shulginn tasting it. If not him someone from his close circle of experienced psychoknots. Maybe the most experienced drug takers in the world. If they say there were no effects there were no effects, at least anyone would be interested in. Coffee has a noticeable effect no matter how busy or wound up you are.

I was looking at dates and this stuff has been around at least 3 weeks with no description of effects. This makes me suspcious. Pentylone can be felt at 50 mg, a medium dose is 100-200 mg, on up. There's other cathies that are much more potent. If I had some I'd test it with a reagent to find out what it is. Especially if I had a lot. Then I'd find a willing human.

Start very small, to test for allergies and real big fuckups. I recently read the reports of some surivors of the 2cbro mo dragonfly fuck up. It seems that was a turning point in harm reduction. Don't test alone and be careful of body load. This group can cause problems with heart, circulation, and vasoconstriction in an overdose. 100 mg could be safe but there's plenty of stuff that's sensitive at the 1-5 mg level and smaller.

It feels weird writing this, I don't like putting down vendors' magazines. Hopefully I'm wrong and it is Methyl-K and it turns out to be amazing stuff. It's still a possibility. I think I read somewhere it was tested on rodents and they had a great time. They became euphoric and all sang Twist and Shout. I can't find the report now but I'm pretty sure I saw it.

I'm not a chem ist, not an expert, often I"m full of shit. This is all speculation, if you're curious and want to try for the unique opportunity I'd go for it. I'm a little tempted actually. It's an opportunity to try something that's never been tried before in human history. That has a small but real chance of being really special. A smaller chance of being something that changes the world.

 

[ontovzik]

If anyone knows of a vendor carrying something other than tilmetamine (DCK, MXPr, 2-fdck, etc) please let me know. I'm super bummed I didn't do more research and trust my intuition.

Got so caught up in writing that novel I forgot about your question. I've looked around a couple times and there's no shortage of vendors with one or more of those magazines. I wouldn't feel good recommending you to someone I can't vouch for because I haven't worked with them. With your sponsor status you should be able to find one you can work with. Besides the different personalities and business practices there's quite a swing in costs.

I was reading reports of tilmetamine that didn't sound good. Side effects that lasted 10-20 days and more after a moderate dose. It gets worse with large doses and multiple dosing. To me it's not worth messing with considering that most of the other types have a good safety record if you don't abuse them and use them in safe settings.

 

[TripTrey]

Got so caught up in writing that novel I forgot about your question. I've looked around a couple times and there's no shortage of vendors with one or more of those magazines. I wouldn't feel good recommending you to someone I can't vouch for because I haven't worked with them. With your sponsor status you should be able to find one you can work with. Besides the different personalities and business practices there's quite a swing in costs.

I was reading reports of tilmetamine that didn't sound good. Side effects that lasted 10-20 days and more after a moderate dose. It gets worse with large doses and multiple dosing. To me it's not worth messing with considering that most of the other types have a good safety record if you don't abuse them and use them in safe settings.

Yes I have found those mags available from vendors on here but have so far run into issues with professionalism, prices and reputation...kind of a pain, but I'll keep looking. It's actually needed for the development of a program I'm developing which has garnered a lot of interest from professionals and clients alike. But standard K isn't ideal.

Anyway, I dissolved this "Methyl-k" into some PG and vaped approx 50mg with no notable effects, regardless of temperature. Why vape? Potential applicability purposes and I knew it would be soluble. Plus, it enables rapid onset so it could be very carefully and gradually increased in dose. As we know, bioavailability of vaporized compounds is greatly enhanced, so 50mg would be equivalent to well above 100mg.

When I had my AI look at the chemical structure a few more times, I got a variety of responses, but it consistently asserts it is in the realm of MDMA/MDA--somewhere between, and likely a longer duration. There was no CAS number. Because its likely effects aren't applicable to my needs, I didn't experiment more whole-heartedly.

And regarding TilMETamine, (not to be confused with Tiletamine or Tilidine), I've found 10-20mg intranasal to have mild effects of a bland K analogue.

 

[darkshark69]

Well, I just got some in. When I first saw the name, I thought of bkmdma (methylone) but also ketamine. When I have AI analyze its chemical structure, it basically says it's similar to MXE--a more serotonergic Ketamine with longer duration. However, there's a wiki which confirms your suspicions that it's a MDMA/MDA like stimulant. Actually a bit of a let down for me as I need Ketamine-type effects anyone knows of a vendor carrying something other than tilmetamine (DCK, MXPr, 2-fdck, etc) please let me know. I'm super bummed I didn't do more research and trust my intuition.ut

 

[darkshark69]

AutoG, if you know who I mean. Just got 2f trial run in. Ill post a review this week