need some benzo advice and feedback,if poss ?

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am i right in saying clonazepam ( international name,clonotril )

is called in uk Rivotril

and in usa Klonopin

????

also diaz v clonazepam,, who comes out on top ?  any ideas ? thoughts ? from both sides of the pond....

 
Clonaz@p@m is generic for Klon@pin. Same stuff if it's legit. I'm prescribed Klon and get the generic. Works identical for me. 

 
thanks @JexLex for your incite into this ..its handy bcuz some shud be landing soon for me ....cheers ......

if you have a good reliable website for clonazepam i would much appreciate ??

 
also diaz v clonazepam,, who comes out on top ?  any ideas ? thoughts ? from both sides of the pond....
I believe that .5 mg  of Clon is eqivilent to 10mg Diaz. For a buzz I prefer Clon.  Take a look at the international section. You will find the items you are looking for. 

 
thanks @JexLex for your incite into this ..its handy bcuz some shud be landing soon for me ....cheers ......

if you have a good reliable website for clonazepam i would much appreciate ??
I advise you to read and research yourself. It's not hard to come by. See international section. 

 
Klonopin last long but takes long to hit

Xanax works faster but doesn't last long same w Ativan 

valium doesn't quite take as long as Klonopin to hit but also doesn't last as long as Klonopin.

versed is very short acting but last very short

 
am i right in saying clonazepam ( international name,clonotril )

is called in uk Rivotril

and in usa Klonopin

????

also diaz v clonazepam,, who comes out on top ?  any ideas ? thoughts ? from both sides of the pond....
Diazepam seems to be a way more mellow less noticable sedative compared with the longer acting more"intense" Klonopins... Depending on the person.. Personally prefer the Valiums.. Klonopins and I are bad mix..

 
Klonopin last long but takes long to hit

Xanax works faster but doesn't last long same w Ativan 

valium doesn't quite take as long as Klonopin to hit but also doesn't last as long as Klonopin.

versed is very short acting but last very short

 
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Um, Sorry I am not sure what happened up there. I am new to all of this,  I just wanted to say that I have been on benzos (panic disorder) for 13 years and US Army Veterans post sums it up perfectly.

 
Diazepam seems to be a way more mellow less noticable sedative compared with the longer acting more"intense" Klonopins... Depending on the person.. Personally prefer the Valiums.. Klonopins and I are bad mix..
Short Answer: I prefer Kpin & valium because I find Xanax to short acting. That being said if I was having a really bad panic attack (Hands tighten and cramp up & go numb, face goes numb, wanting to cry, feeling like im going to die) then I would definitely choose the strongest option being either Xan or Kpin. For acute symptoms Valium or a small dose of Kpin could possibly be a good option. 

My .02$ Sorry its long winded 

So Xanax is a very strong short acting medication that is perfect for extreme anxiety (a Dr. might give it to a person who is deathly afraid of flying on airplanes) My biggest problem with Xanax is that it has a very short half life (4-6 hours). This means it is more difficult to ween off from. Also overuse of Xanax can cause very serious withdrawal symptoms.  Withdrawal symptoms include headaches, sweating, seizures & DEATH and i'm certain many others.  I can speak from experience! If you take a lot of xanax and run out you should seek medical attention & tell your DR. the truth. They will probably give you a benzo with an extremely long half life like Librium. This allows you to ween off safely. 

Clonopin is very similar to Xanax but it has an pretty long half life (if I remember correctly somewhere between 30-40. This means roughly 1-2 days to eliminate 50% of the drug from your blood stream. This means the Kpin will stay in your blood for a good bit of time.   I believe it is more suitable for everyday anxiety or symptoms. Many people I know on Kpins have had everyday anxiety or anxiety from PTSD.

Valium is really the Standard for all Benzos or at least it used to be. I believe that when medical professional discuss the strength of benzos they usually compare it to a set does of Valium. Something along the lines of 10mg valium = 1mg xanax = 1mg kpin (not medically accurate just an example of roughly how they are compared) 

keep in mind overuse of any benzo is extremely risky. Especially when taken everyday at high doses. There is also some indication that long lasting use of benzo can lead to dementia later in life. Also statistically I think heroin users are more likely to quite shooting up than someone addicted to benzos. I believe 1 out of 4 heroin users will give up their habit, but less than 25% of people who regularly use benzos will ever quit. ** sorry this was so long winded guys... Be safe!

- BN

 
Short Answer: I prefer Kpin & valium because I find Xanax to short acting. That being said if I was having a really bad panic attack (Hands tighten and cramp up & go numb, face goes numb, wanting to cry, feeling like im going to die) then I would definitely choose the strongest option being either Xan or Kpin. For acute symptoms Valium or a small dose of Kpin could possibly be a good option. 

My .02$ Sorry its long winded 

So Xanax is a very strong short acting medication that is perfect for extreme anxiety (a Dr. might give it to a person who is deathly afraid of flying on airplanes) My biggest problem with Xanax is that it has a very short half life (4-6 hours). This means it is more difficult to ween off from. Also overuse of Xanax can cause very serious withdrawal symptoms.  Withdrawal symptoms include headaches, sweating, seizures & DEATH and i'm certain many others.  I can speak from experience! If you take a lot of xanax and run out you should seek medical attention & tell your DR. the truth. They will probably give you a benzo with an extremely long half life like Librium. This allows you to ween off safely. 

Clonopin is very similar to Xanax but it has an pretty long half life (if I remember correctly somewhere between 30-40. This means roughly 1-2 days to eliminate 50% of the drug from your blood stream. This means the Kpin will stay in your blood for a good bit of time.   I believe it is more suitable for everyday anxiety or symptoms. Many people I know on Kpins have had everyday anxiety or anxiety from PTSD.

Valium is really the Standard for all Benzos or at least it used to be. I believe that when medical professional discuss the strength of benzos they usually compare it to a set does of Valium. Something along the lines of 10mg valium = 1mg xanax = 1mg kpin (not medically accurate just an example of roughly how they are compared) 

keep in mind overuse of any benzo is extremely risky. Especially when taken everyday at high doses. There is also some indication that long lasting use of benzo can lead to dementia later in life. Also statistically I think heroin users are more likely to quite shooting up than someone addicted to benzos. I believe 1 out of 4 heroin users will give up their habit, but less than 25% of people who regularly use benzos will ever quit. ** sorry this was so long winded guys... Be safe!

- BN
Good information.  I am on benzoes 4 times a day, know I am physically and mentally addicted to it, but it is necessary for me to function at all (I am on a cocktail of meds).  I have no problem knowing I will either take for life, or have to go through bad dope-sickness/withdrawal.  To me, it is not any different than someone who takes pills daily for their high blood pressure, or insulin for diabetics--of course, these meds are controlled, but I have acute anxiety, and I depend on this category of meds to get through a day an hour at a time.  I realize there are people who look down on those of us who take these meds, but it just can't be changed.  I don't know how old you are, but there is a song "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane (or it might have been Jefferson Starship at the time); the song is older than me, but I know it well, and it about summarizes my situation--"one pill makes you smaller, and one pill makes you tall, and the ones that mother gives you, don't do anything at all, go ask Alice, etc."  If you are not suffering from a condition that makes these pill combinations necessary, then it is difficult to communicate to people who don't understand--that is what is special about this forum for me.  I am long winded, too, surely the moderators are tired of me today...sorry, guys...

 
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