Ethylbromazolam solution

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Trying to do this the easiest way possible (until I get actual equipment such as pg, mag stirrer, mg scale etc..) just ordered a gram of ethylbrom, and bought a 375ml 190 proof bottle of alcohol. Looked for a smaller size, smallest I could get. My plan is to measure out 250ml out of the bottle put that aside or save, and use the remaining 125ml to make 8mg/ml. Now this is in a pinch, and the solution would be mixed in the alcohol bottle. And then transfer into my amber dropper bottles I have on the way. Would this work? Any tips, cheap things I could buy that I could get locally that would help or anything regarding this would be greatly appreciated. Examples as I’m unsure how the gram will be packaged I assume in a bag, tips regarding the transfer into the bottle little things along those lines. My first time making a solution so my apologies if this sounds stupid, did some research and this is what I can come up with. Thanks in advance!
 
Do you know how to make a solution? You certainly can’t just dump it in and call it a day. There are plenty of Reddit threads that explain how to do this without using a mag stirrer. I don’t have the time to type it out right now but a quick google search will give you the answer you need.
 
Do you know how to make a solution? You certainly can’t just dump it in and call it a day. There are plenty of Reddit threads that explain how to do this without using a mag stirrer. I don’t have the time to type it out right now but a quick google search will give you the answer you need.
Most likely a thread on this forum as well
 
Trying to do this the easiest way possible (until I get actual equipment such as pg, mag stirrer, mg scale etc..) just ordered a gram of ethylbrom, and bought a 375ml 190 proof bottle of alcohol. Looked for a smaller size, smallest I could get. My plan is to measure out 250ml out of the bottle put that aside or save, and use the remaining 125ml to make 8mg/ml. Now this is in a pinch, and the solution would be mixed in the alcohol bottle. And then transfer into my amber dropper bottles I have on the way. Would this work? Any tips, cheap things I could buy that I could get locally that would help or anything regarding this would be greatly appreciated. Examples as I’m unsure how the gram will be packaged I assume in a bag, tips regarding the transfer into the bottle little things along those lines. My first time making a solution so my apologies if this sounds stupid, did some research and this is what I can come up with. Thanks in advance!
Don't have experience with £+y1br0m specifically and just generally not super experienced with b£nz0$ but I made an @v!z@f0n€ solution for the first time a few weeks ago using 200mL of 80 pr00f t£qμ¡1@ and have kept it stored in a glass mason jar, so I think keeping it in the @1c0h01 bottle short term until your amber droppers arrive should be fine.

Some type of funnel to get it in the bottle would probably be helpful. What I would suggest is weigh out your £thy1br0m in a shot glass or one of those small plastic measuring cups that come with cough syrup or other oral medications. That way you know for sure the exact amount you are dissolving in the 125mL so you can have a more precise idea of the concentration. Regular non mg $c@1£ should be fine for this purpose. Then dump it from the shot glass or measuring cup down a funnel into the bottle. You could also draw out a few mL of the alcohol with an 0r@l $yr¡ñg£ to swirl around in the shot glass or measuring cup then dump down the funnel back into the bottle, if you are worried about it sticking to the shot glass/measuring cup.
 
Also, take my suggestions with a grain of salt, and if anyone with more experience with b£nz0$, more experience making solutions, or both chips in, prioritize their suggestions over mine as I am not by any means some expert in the subject matter
 
I’ve always thought that adding heat was pretty important for the process. Not with Avizafone but maybe I am wrong. I’m interested in ethyl brom as well. Don’t know too much about it I took a break from benzos for a while.
 
I’ve always thought that adding heat was pretty important for the process. Not with Avizafone but maybe I am wrong. I’m interested in ethyl brom as well. Don’t know too much about it I took a break from benzos for a while.
Yeah @v¡z@f0n£ is water soluble so when I made my solution I just put the lid on the jar and shook it up. But I am not sure if that works for other b£nz0$. Most ph@rm@ b£nz0$ aren't water soluble so I would guess the same is true of most are see b£nz0$ based on my admittedly limited layperson's knowledge but I'm not sure their solubility in alcohol, pg, etc without heat involved.
 
Here’s one with some vital information for you:

This thread is not about benzodiazepine usage but rather the preparation of a proper volumetric benzo solution (or any solution for that matter, but I'm mainly concerned with benzos in PG for the purposes of this thread). I don't encourage benzodiazepine use in any way - physical dependence WILL result from extended, regular usage of benzos and the withdrawals can be life threatening. That being said, let's get into it.

So I decided to make this post because I see a large number of people trying to make benzo solution using some form of alcohol. Now if you have lab grade ethanol, ~99% (WITHOUT added benzene in it or any other additive that's meant to make the liquid inconsumable), this thread isn't directed at you - go ahead and continue to make your solutions how you like.

Almost everyone else that is attempting to use alcohol as a benzo solvent will be using grain alcohol or the like (only 95% alcohol, 5% water - 5% can make a huge difference). If you have access to propylene glycol (which you likely do if you're able to source benzodiazepine RCs from the internet), then you have absolutely no reason to use everclear as your solvent; PG is better in every way.

The basic idea of volumetric dosing is that you take a certain, known mass of your desired chemical (let's say 1000mg of diclazepam) and you dissolve it into a known amount of propylene glycol (let's say 100mL for easy math). The solution you produce will be 10mg/mL. Propylene glycol is a GI irritant in large quantities so I'll always suggest that you make your solution as concentrated as possible without sacrificing your dosing comfortability. So, if you're using an oral syringe, you'll probably want to make a LESS concentrated solution than if you are using a dropper vial.

My personal recommendation is to use a dropper vial and as concentrated a solution as you can, effectively minimizing propylene glycol consumption (I usually achieve 10mg/mL with most benzos - diclazepam being a bit more finicky depending on the purity of your batch). If you don't have access to a real rubber topped glass/plastic dropper vial (which, again, I don't see why you wouldn't) then you can use an empty eyedropper container (just make sure you clean it out and redry it first). The functionality is the same. First thing you do before actually mixing any drugs is to do a statistical test to make a good estimate of how much PG your dropper dispenses PER DROP. The easiest way to do this is to measure 1mL of PG and then use the dropper to drop that entire mL into another clean vial counting the drops it takes for all the liquid to be dispensed. Repeat this process 5-10 times and take the average. This will give you a fairly accurate measurement of how much liquid your particular dropper dispenses (For reference, your standard eye dropper dispenses ~20 drops per mL, and some rubber headed dropper vials will give up to 30 drops per mL). Make sure you use your intended solvent (Again, pure PG for benzos) for this test, as viscosity will affect your results.

Now you can calculate your mg/drop dosage, which then can be labeled on your dropper container so that you don't need to go about doing unnecessary recalculation. For example, if you have a 10mg/mL solution in a dropper that dispenses 20 drops, then you're going to be getting 0.5mg/drop. If you've been using a calculator throughout this process, which I certainly recommend you do, and you come up with an ugly decimal number you should choose 2-3 significant digits and ROUND DOWN for [drops/mL] or ROUND UP for [mg/drop] as a safety precaution. This makes the assumption that your solution is more concentrated than it actually is - an obvious HR tactic.

With all that out of the way, you can now add your active solution to your dropper container and you should be able to quickly and easily dispense a desired dose, just remember (and preferably label your container with) your mg/drop figure. That's all there is to it, folks.

TL/DR:

Stop using everclear as your benzodiazepine solvent. Propylene glycol is vastly superior in that it doesn't contain water - water being the main culprit of solute precipitation causing hotspotting and/or changes of your solution concentration.

Spend the extra little bit of money/effort to get PG to make your solution with. It's worth it 100%.
 
What I always did was made a double boiler and heated it low and slow for hours, until no powder is left at the bottom. DO NOT USE WATER THAT IS TOO HOT!!!! You want to keep stirring and heating for a while. I shattered a gram of clonaz one time and I was absolutely devastated. If anyone has any better tips for my dude please let him know.
 
Here’s one with some vital information for you:

This thread is not about benzodiazepine usage but rather the preparation of a proper volumetric benzo solution (or any solution for that matter, but I'm mainly concerned with benzos in PG for the purposes of this thread). I don't encourage benzodiazepine use in any way - physical dependence WILL result from extended, regular usage of benzos and the withdrawals can be life threatening. That being said, let's get into it.

So I decided to make this post because I see a large number of people trying to make benzo solution using some form of alcohol. Now if you have lab grade ethanol, ~99% (WITHOUT added benzene in it or any other additive that's meant to make the liquid inconsumable), this thread isn't directed at you - go ahead and continue to make your solutions how you like.

Almost everyone else that is attempting to use alcohol as a benzo solvent will be using grain alcohol or the like (only 95% alcohol, 5% water - 5% can make a huge difference). If you have access to propylene glycol (which you likely do if you're able to source benzodiazepine RCs from the internet), then you have absolutely no reason to use everclear as your solvent; PG is better in every way.

The basic idea of volumetric dosing is that you take a certain, known mass of your desired chemical (let's say 1000mg of diclazepam) and you dissolve it into a known amount of propylene glycol (let's say 100mL for easy math). The solution you produce will be 10mg/mL. Propylene glycol is a GI irritant in large quantities so I'll always suggest that you make your solution as concentrated as possible without sacrificing your dosing comfortability. So, if you're using an oral syringe, you'll probably want to make a LESS concentrated solution than if you are using a dropper vial.

My personal recommendation is to use a dropper vial and as concentrated a solution as you can, effectively minimizing propylene glycol consumption (I usually achieve 10mg/mL with most benzos - diclazepam being a bit more finicky depending on the purity of your batch). If you don't have access to a real rubber topped glass/plastic dropper vial (which, again, I don't see why you wouldn't) then you can use an empty eyedropper container (just make sure you clean it out and redry it first). The functionality is the same. First thing you do before actually mixing any drugs is to do a statistical test to make a good estimate of how much PG your dropper dispenses PER DROP. The easiest way to do this is to measure 1mL of PG and then use the dropper to drop that entire mL into another clean vial counting the drops it takes for all the liquid to be dispensed. Repeat this process 5-10 times and take the average. This will give you a fairly accurate measurement of how much liquid your particular dropper dispenses (For reference, your standard eye dropper dispenses ~20 drops per mL, and some rubber headed dropper vials will give up to 30 drops per mL). Make sure you use your intended solvent (Again, pure PG for benzos) for this test, as viscosity will affect your results.

Now you can calculate your mg/drop dosage, which then can be labeled on your dropper container so that you don't need to go about doing unnecessary recalculation. For example, if you have a 10mg/mL solution in a dropper that dispenses 20 drops, then you're going to be getting 0.5mg/drop. If you've been using a calculator throughout this process, which I certainly recommend you do, and you come up with an ugly decimal number you should choose 2-3 significant digits and ROUND DOWN for [drops/mL] or ROUND UP for [mg/drop] as a safety precaution. This makes the assumption that your solution is more concentrated than it actually is - an obvious HR tactic.

With all that out of the way, you can now add your active solution to your dropper container and you should be able to quickly and easily dispense a desired dose, just remember (and preferably label your container with) your mg/drop figure. That's all there is to it, folks.

TL/DR:

Stop using everclear as your benzodiazepine solvent. Propylene glycol is vastly superior in that it doesn't contain water - water being the main culprit of solute precipitation causing hotspotting and/or changes of your solution concentration.

Spend the extra little bit of money/effort to get PG to make your solution with. It's worth it 100%.
Just realized this is written for old school benzos but it’s the same basic concept.
 
Here’s one with some vital information for you:

This thread is not about benzodiazepine usage but rather the preparation of a proper volumetric benzo solution (or any solution for that matter, but I'm mainly concerned with benzos in PG for the purposes of this thread). I don't encourage benzodiazepine use in any way - physical dependence WILL result from extended, regular usage of benzos and the withdrawals can be life threatening. That being said, let's get into it.

So I decided to make this post because I see a large number of people trying to make benzo solution using some form of alcohol. Now if you have lab grade ethanol, ~99% (WITHOUT added benzene in it or any other additive that's meant to make the liquid inconsumable), this thread isn't directed at you - go ahead and continue to make your solutions how you like.

Almost everyone else that is attempting to use alcohol as a benzo solvent will be using grain alcohol or the like (only 95% alcohol, 5% water - 5% can make a huge difference). If you have access to propylene glycol (which you likely do if you're able to source benzodiazepine RCs from the internet), then you have absolutely no reason to use everclear as your solvent; PG is better in every way.

The basic idea of volumetric dosing is that you take a certain, known mass of your desired chemical (let's say 1000mg of diclazepam) and you dissolve it into a known amount of propylene glycol (let's say 100mL for easy math). The solution you produce will be 10mg/mL. Propylene glycol is a GI irritant in large quantities so I'll always suggest that you make your solution as concentrated as possible without sacrificing your dosing comfortability. So, if you're using an oral syringe, you'll probably want to make a LESS concentrated solution than if you are using a dropper vial.

My personal recommendation is to use a dropper vial and as concentrated a solution as you can, effectively minimizing propylene glycol consumption (I usually achieve 10mg/mL with most benzos - diclazepam being a bit more finicky depending on the purity of your batch). If you don't have access to a real rubber topped glass/plastic dropper vial (which, again, I don't see why you wouldn't) then you can use an empty eyedropper container (just make sure you clean it out and redry it first). The functionality is the same. First thing you do before actually mixing any drugs is to do a statistical test to make a good estimate of how much PG your dropper dispenses PER DROP. The easiest way to do this is to measure 1mL of PG and then use the dropper to drop that entire mL into another clean vial counting the drops it takes for all the liquid to be dispensed. Repeat this process 5-10 times and take the average. This will give you a fairly accurate measurement of how much liquid your particular dropper dispenses (For reference, your standard eye dropper dispenses ~20 drops per mL, and some rubber headed dropper vials will give up to 30 drops per mL). Make sure you use your intended solvent (Again, pure PG for benzos) for this test, as viscosity will affect your results.

Now you can calculate your mg/drop dosage, which then can be labeled on your dropper container so that you don't need to go about doing unnecessary recalculation. For example, if you have a 10mg/mL solution in a dropper that dispenses 20 drops, then you're going to be getting 0.5mg/drop. If you've been using a calculator throughout this process, which I certainly recommend you do, and you come up with an ugly decimal number you should choose 2-3 significant digits and ROUND DOWN for [drops/mL] or ROUND UP for [mg/drop] as a safety precaution. This makes the assumption that your solution is more concentrated than it actually is - an obvious HR tactic.

With all that out of the way, you can now add your active solution to your dropper container and you should be able to quickly and easily dispense a desired dose, just remember (and preferably label your container with) your mg/drop figure. That's all there is to it, folks.

TL/DR:

Stop using everclear as your benzodiazepine solvent. Propylene glycol is vastly superior in that it doesn't contain water - water being the main culprit of solute precipitation causing hotspotting and/or changes of your solution concentration.

Spend the extra little bit of money/effort to get PG to make your solution with. It's worth it 100%.
Thank you for sharing this! Looks super helpful!

@xanman2800 disregard my above posts, this seems to be a much better way of doing it than what I had suggested
 
I did 6mg/ml in 100% PG with a mason jar. I warmed the PG first by itself in a bowl of around 95-100 degrees Fahrenheit for a few minutes. Then you pour your accurately weighed compound and place it in the mason jar. Then, if you haven't already, go on @m@zon and buy a mag stirrer. It's a complete game changer. I got my 3thylbr0m to dissolve no problem.

Sometimes, if 10 minutes on the stirrer isn't enough, you do another warm water bath of similar temperature as above. Then put back on the magnetic stirrer. Hope this helps anyone reads it.
 
All good advice! To add on more detailed (and maybe pedantic) info, If you’re working with very p0tėnt material or want to taper and ensure your mg/ml is exact, then q.s. (stands for something in Latin for ‘top off’ more or less) your solution as the final step.
For example, if you want 10 mg/ml and have 1000mg, add the 1000mg to ~90ml, stir until dissolved or close to dissolved, then q.s. the solution to 100ml. If you were to add 1000mg to 100ml and dissolve, the solid would add volume as well and you’d probably end up with like 105ml, which is 9.5mg/ml. Not a big deal, but it can make a difference in large scale quantities or if it’s a heavy hitter or if you just want to be very exact
 
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