Best for weight loss?

I have tried every weight loss med out there!  The only one that has ever worked is Phent@ermine!  I started taking this one 23 years ago and stayed on it pretty consistently.  Honestly, long term the weight loss benefits go away, but I always took it for energy.  I lost 45lbs the first 2 months I was on it and kept it off until I had my babies.  Recently, a med called Sax@enda was released.  My endocrinologist gave me Vict@oza which is the same med in a lower dose approved for metabolic problems. Its a self administered injection and I didn't have much faith in it but I have to tell you that my hunger is cut by 75% and I actually lost weight without thinking about it or trying!  So Sax@enda is very expensive and insurance won't cover it but they do cover Victoza, I don't really think you need the higher doses and to be honest if you take more than  you need without gradually increasing the dose you will just vomit - very unpleasant!

 
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If you're looking for weight loss only,have you thought about trying Allie,aka orlistat,not difficult to get,OTC,works Wonders!I've seen many people lose literally1/2 their weight(intentionally of coarse),being 2x's the sz.&having BMI2x's the "norm." Good luck! 

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I lost 5 stones on Orlistat, however, be prepared to fill your bathroom with toilet paper, and be careful whilst out in public! The 'splurges' can be quite unexpected.  :excl:

 
I lost a ton of weight using cocaine, and that's highly not recommended! Do not do that at home, may cause death!,, But isn't eating healthy and exercise the best way? @SaintAlien so the Atkins diet works well? It sounds like you are super into it and healthy! 

@tomoenage wow, 700 calories a day! Yikes, how do you have any energy? God bless you for getting into shape at your age and trying hard as you can possibly be. Remember to drink lots of water. Right now I'm addicted to Mios, I am weird I hate the taste of water so I carry about five flavor in my purse and just get a water and put a few squirts in and now I'm drinking water all the time. It makes you feel better and look better too. 

And I had a ton of friends that used phentermine with success, but I have associates I won't call friends back in Ohio that use adderall to lose weight, they don't have ADHD they use it for its stimulant quality. There's a doctor in Cincinnati that asks you ten questions and everyone that sees him knows how to answer so he'll write for you. I haven't used it for neither so I am not an authority or a doctor. I would work with a physician on your weight loss.  Have you been? Is gastric bypass an option for you!? I just seem a little frightened for you for a grown man to live on 700 calories! Anyways, congrats on your weight loss and please be careful I agree with @SaintAlienmost people who use meds just put it back on. I would work with my doctor for sure though. My god in jail they had to give is 2,000 calories and I still felt like I was starving, I don't know how you are doing it! Please be careful but congrats on making a healthy new lifestyle choices! Good luck to you.

 
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I lost a ton of weight using cocaine, and that's highly not recommended! Do not do that at home, may cause death!,, But isn't eating healthy and exercise the best way? @SaintAlien so the Atkins diet works well? It sounds like you are super into it and healthy! 

@tomoenage wow, 700 calories a day! Yikes, how do you have any energy? God bless you for getting into shape at your age and trying hard as you can possibly be. Remember to drink lots of water. Right now I'm addicted to Mios, I am weird I hate the taste of water so I carry about five flavor in my purse and just get a water and put a few squirts in and now I'm drinking water all the time. It makes you feel better and look better too. 

And I had a ton of friends that used phentermine with success, but I have associates I won't call friends back in Ohio that use adderall to lose weight, they don't have ADHD they use it for its stimulant quality. There's a doctor in Cincinnati that asks you ten questions and everyone that sees him knows how to answer so he'll write for you. I haven't used it for neither so I am not an authority or a doctor. I would work with a physician on your weight loss.  Have you been? Is gastric bypass an option for you!? I just seem a little frightened for you for a grown man to live on 700 calories! Anyways, congrats on your weight loss and please be careful I agree with @SaintAlienmost people who use meds just put it back on. I would work with my doctor for sure though. My god in jail they had to give is 2,000 calories and I still felt like I was starving, I don't know how you are doing it! Please be careful but congrats on making a healthy new lifestyle choices! Good luck to you.
Gonna say, in 2007 my valium and DHC diet lost me 3 stones. Can't see them plugging that like Slim Fast!

 
Topamax is an awesome weight loss medication.  It is used for migraines, and is part of an actual weight loss drug, whose name I cannot remember for the life of me.  But, with the Topamax, especially at higher doses,  I have seen MANY people lose up to 50 pounds.  It causes you to hyperventilate, which leads to a metabolic alkalosis, which I guess suppresses appetite.  I might be wrong, though, about it's mechanism of action.  I took it once (for migraines), and I hated it, cuz of the hyperventilation (which is sub conscious) causes dizziness, and tingling around the mouth and finger tips.  

 
@Princessbenzo the dizziness is more like a fog which is why they call it d0p3amax and the sensations are normal

It's actually used for migraines, yes, but also epilepsy and other neurological issues. It helps lose weight because of the elements it focuses on, which happens to be one area that has to do with appetite :)

 
All great information but I can't find a doctor that will prescribe anything whatsoever, it's very frustrating!

 
@ecko5 There may be a few sources here that have it or something similar. I’ve never researched them, but there are so many sources here, I would not be surprised. Good luck

 
What about clen?
Stimulants (I'm including clen and even lorcasine within that) all suffer from having a strong rebound effect and tolerance. The one med that helped me lose 20-25 kg was Saxenda (Liraglutide). It may be a little pricey depending on your situation but everyone I know that used it lost a substantial amount of weight. You can also take a stimulant, phentermine, fenproporex, amfepramone, but I would consider them secondary. I also took Vyvanse for my ADHD and I know it helped, so I'd throw vyvanse and extended release methylphenidate and amphetamines as options too. Just don't depend on them entirely because then you'll get the weight back as soon as you stop taking them.

 
I usually do fat burners with a diuretic, clean diet, carb cycle and HIIT cardio after my workouts to burn fat but TBH this Phentermine stuff sounds like magic. Can anyone enlighten me?

 
Uhmmmm caloric restriction and hitt cardio)?? 
 

only national level competitors imo should be messing around with hormones. Or if you know what you doing 

Respectfully there is no magic pill well maybe DNP but dont try that rat posion

 
Uhmmmm caloric restriction and hitt cardio)?? 
 

only national level competitors imo should be messing around with hormones. Or if you know what you doing 

Respectfully there is no magic pill well maybe DNP but dont try that rat posion
Extremely effective and potent but my god what a hellish 4 weeks it was. Toxic literally flows out of your skin. Only for the advanced and I had someone cook, clean and look after me during the entire phase.

 
@trinity im glad someone knows haha! All these dudes looking for shortcuts.. magic pills … you eat less and exert more energy via training 

 
Biochemistry dude here. The best things for fat loss are 1) do not eat a lot of carbs all at one time; even fruit. Looong story short, sugars break down into acetyl-co-a; this also happens to be a substrate and a positive feedback signal for lipogenysis. Go look at the pathways for it and glycolysis. Always slow down carb digestion with protein or fat. 2) you burn more fat when your heart rate is lower. Work up to being able to walk 3 miles a day. You can always go faster if you want, but it is technically optimal to have a heartbeat around 100-120. 3) do not try to lose “weight”; try to lose FAT. Eating protein helps you retain lean body mass; which burns calories. Hope this helps.
 
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Do you guys not know of retatrutide?
Cheap from Chinese warehouses in the US. Triple agonists. Lost 9kg in three weeks easily. Never felt hungry. Just a little weaker at the gym. Best option available now.
 
Do you guys not know of retatrutide?
Cheap from Chinese warehouses in the US. Triple agonists. Lost 9kg in three weeks easily. Never felt hungry. Just a little weaker at the gym. Best option available now.
This whole thread started wayyy before Reta. Now it’s the gold standard, and really the only thing you would need if you wanted to stack a weight loss supp.
 
Do you guys not know of retatrutide?
Cheap from Chinese warehouses in the US. Triple agonists. Lost 9kg in three weeks easily. Never felt hungry. Just a little weaker at the gym. Best option available now.
I just can’t get behind the glp antagonists… I’ve heard it’s killer if you don’t keep your diet clean. From the studies I’ve seen it can result in a lot of muscle loss (biggest issue with losing weight too quickly). I did try (trying to stand by rules here) a di-nitro phenolic oxidative uncoupler once. It was more to experience the heat than for weight loss. I slept under an open window in 9 degree F weather so yeah… the heat thing is real. I don’t recommend it to anyone really.

Odd to say here, but body composition changes are better done without supplementation. Slow and steady wins this race.
 
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  3. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan like I said before I’m a recovering opiate addict so I choose not to touch the shit at all but I’ve been to smoke shops because I buy disposable vape products and other accessories, but every smoke shop I’ve been to over the last few years have had kratom “front and center” and easy to see. About 2/3 years ago 7oh products began appearing and it got completely out of control. I remember telling one of the owners of my regular shop that 7oh it’s not gonna end well
  4. E @ eswen444: *or post here. Holy spelling problems....but also for everyones info what im told is as of 8/1/2026 7oh, MIT, MGM, and other concentrates will be scheduled 1. Its an emergency schedule which lasts TWO YEARS and they can request an additional if needed. I feel horrible for all the homie/homettes who have to deal with this.
  5. E @ eswen444: @MorfineOrfan do you have a link to the chems the DEA blans to emergency schedule? If so please pm it to me or lost here. From what im told from my corporate over seers everything BUT raw leaf, and capsuled leaf will be removed from shelves 7/31/26
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  7. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z i have no clue what the supply and demand is like for brick and mortar shops, i havnt been in a smokeshope in 15-20years and back then none of them had or even knew what kratom was. Ive always bought kratom from vendors online, back in tge day we would use babel fish translator to haggle with vendors on kilo prices lol. But you dont need to worry mit will always be available if leaf is.
  8. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @nameofuser11 its not just 7/mgm/psuedo and sr, the dea has a huge list of compounds its banning with this ban. Odsmt is one, all the orphines and a ton more.
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  13. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: I donated and I forgot how to get the password. I am a moron. Don't worry I have no plans on becoming a vendor with my stupidity
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  15. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: Especially if they’re using mitragynine as the parent alk to make substitutes. I think it will affect plain leaf too at the very least it will not be as available as it’s been.
  16. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan @nameofuser11 That’s wild. But basic supply/demand tho, right? In my area all the leaf has been pulled off shelves,
  17. J @ j00ciiez: It sucks they're banning sr17. It seems to be a holy grail for many ppl.
  18. nameofuser11 @ nameofuser11: To clarify plain leaf kratom is not a part of this ban. Mitragynine might be fine. 7, psuedo,mgm15 and sr1708 are what are on the table to be banned most likely but hopefully just regulated.
  19. MorfineOrfan @ MorfineOrfan: @st1ckyf1ng4z and yes , there are already indole alkoloids with tweaked scaffolding ready to take the place of 7/mgm, all with mitragynine as their parent alkoloid. The game of wack a mole starts the minute 7 is officially banned. Its 2013 K2 all over
  20. st1ckyf1ng4z @ st1ckyf1ng4z: @MorfineOrfan Also, it’s just a matter of time before another alternative pops up on the market anyway….
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