How to make solutions

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hey there, I’m kinda new to this whole RC scene but I believe it in a lot of way can be safer than the streets so I decided to try it out

Ive purchased 3 different chems so far and since they are all in powder form I would like to turn them into a liquid solution to ease dosing purposes. Those chems are phenazolam, 4-MeTMP, and 0-dsmt. I only bought 100mg of phenazolam and 1 gram each of the other two.

I think I know what I’m doing for the phenazolam from reading posts on this site, correct me if I’m wrong but in my case I would want a 100ml bottle, use as little everclear as possible to get the chem to dissolve then then fill the rest with PG. Would it be the same process with the other two just with different measurements to achieve the potency I desire? Or is there a better way? I need this to be as easy as possible.

Thank you so much for your help, very much appreciated
 
hey there, I’m kinda new to this whole RC scene but I believe it in a lot of way can be safer than the streets so I decided to try it out

Ive purchased 3 different chems so far and since they are all in powder form I would like to turn them into a liquid solution to ease dosing purposes. Those chems are phenazolam, 4-MeTMP, and 0-dsmt. I only bought 100mg of phenazolam and 1 gram each of the other two.

I think I know what I’m doing for the phenazolam from reading posts on this site, correct me if I’m wrong but in my case I would want a 100ml bottle, use as little everclear as possible to get the chem to dissolve then then fill the rest with PG. Would it be the same process with the other two just with different measurements to achieve the potency I desire? Or is there a better way? I need this to be as easy as possible.

Thank you so much for your help, very much appreciated
I think this would probably work for the four em ee and the 0h dee es empty as long as their s0lubility in the êverclear is decent. Speaking from experience, 0d$ empty is readily s0luble in water and I would guess the 4 emmy would be too, but I'm not sure if using water instead of êverclear for them would increase the risk of contamination/bacteria growth. Though I think pg has antimicrobial properties iirc. I would certainly not use water alone for a solution being stored more than like a week.

I would also mention that weighing your sub$tañçes on a $câle and measuring your liquids with like a beaker or large oral syringe or something is important to make sure your s0lution's c0ncentrãtioñ is accurate, though I'm sure you know that. Especially important with the phênãz0lam as I think that has a much lower active d0sage range than the other 2.
 
I think this would probably work for the four em ee and the 0h dee es empty as long as their s0lubility in the êverclear is decent. Speaking from experience, 0d$ empty is readily s0luble in water and I would guess the 4 emmy would be too, but I'm not sure if using water instead of êverclear for them would increase the risk of contamination/bacteria growth. Though I think pg has antimicrobial properties iirc. I would certainly not use water alone for a solution being stored more than like a week.

I would also mention that weighing your sub$tañçes on a $câle and measuring your liquids with like a beaker or large oral syringe or something is important to make sure your s0lution's c0ncentrãtioñ is accurate, though I'm sure you know that. Especially important with the phênãz0lam as I think that has a much lower active d0sage range than the other 2.
Thank you so much, I believe this answers what I need to know
 
I'm sorry but with all the search engines, and volumetric trip sitter from that one website we all know, I'm shocked people still ask this. They must be underage. Kudos to you for helping them.

I've helped 10+ people on here with same question lmao
Thank you! Yeah does seem to be a fairly common question lol. I have referred people to some of your posts on the subject who've asked as well so I appreciate you having shared the amount of info that you have
 
I'm sorry but with all the search engines, and volumetric trip sitter from that one website we all know, I'm shocked people still ask this. They must be underage. Kudos to you for helping them.

I've helped 10+ people on here with same question lmao
Sometimes you just want to verify certain things before I potentially do something wrong and harm myself and or others, as the post states, im pretty sure I already knew what I was doing but I was verifying.

Gosh I wish I was still a kid
 
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