Tracking wait what

[AlHoffman69]

Came across some pretty interesting reading this morning and I have seen a lot on this topic guilty myself but I think the take away is RELAX it will be there when it gets there checking every two min actually can present problem STAY SAFE

 

[luquitoad]

Sources....

 

[xenxra]

it's been well established for over 13 years that accessing ʊ5ps through tor is a terrible idea and their systems internally flag that traffic. 17track and 1nf0rməd d3livĕry is all you should be using and it's probably best practice to go no further than a no-log vpn for 17track. id should be checked on clearnet if it's personal, personally i use sms to ping for updates.

 

[AlHoffman69]

Sources....

LEO AI is teferenced in this pic however I will say I can back this up with multiple other confirmations from random sources....etc morally of th e story and I was surprised to hear this is the more a TX is searched the more flags are raised...etc I saw a few days ago i somebody asked if havaing tracking was bad for OPSPEC or something and it got me thinking, I know old school vendors do not like dealing with the whiners that pay now and 15 min later are on here saying "WTF I made donataion and nothing" well now we have a little more insight. personally I always like the policy of subscribe to the mag/book and wait, in the event you havent heard anything or seen anything in a week then I woiuld send one email saying whats up? Bottom line nothing you do is going to cause it to go faster, and if your dealing with a scummy librarian//bookshop they already got your shit its just semantics now.I just felt this was really imfortative especially for the newcomers as it address one of the most talked about topics I personally see,, DAILY. Anf plase do not think I am on a soap box for I amn guilty as hell when I first got on line about asking when and where and tracking....etc only thing i have goikng for me is I am old man

 

[st1ckyf1ng4z]

LEO AI is teferenced in this pic however I will say I can back this up with multiple other confirmations from random sources....etc morally of th e story and I was surprised to hear this is the more a TX is searched the more flags are raised...etc I saw a few days ago i somebody asked if havaing tracking was bad for OPSPEC or something and it got me thinking, I know old school vendors do not like dealing with the whiners that pay now and 15 min later are on here saying "WTF I made donataion and nothing" well now we have a little more insight. personally I always like the policy of subscribe to the mag/book and wait, in the event you havent heard anything or seen anything in a week then I woiuld send one email saying whats up? Bottom line nothing you do is going to cause it to go faster, and if your dealing with a scummy librarian//bookshop they already got your shit its just semantics now.I just felt this was really imfortative especially for the newcomers as it address one of the most talked about topics I personally see,, DAILY. Anf plase do not think I am on a soap box for I amn guilty as hell when I first got on line about asking when and where and tracking....etc only thing i have goikng for me is I am old man

ID….that’s all you need dude

 

[luquitoad]

it's been well established for over 13 years that accessing ʊ5ps through tor is a terrible idea and their systems internally flag that traffic. 17track and 1nf0rməd d3livĕry is all you should be using and it's probably best practice to go no further than a no-log vpn for 17track. id should be checked on clearnet if it's personal, personally i use sms to ping for updates.

I agree with everything said in thread. Im always connected to vpn and have never had any trouble with I.d. and the sms is the best (when it works, most always does).

The defense i have re: tracking info ... not everyone has option to (like apartments/multi family dwellings)
And not everyone has subs delivered to their own abode, such as a friends place.

i would like to see some real cases how where vendors were compromised soley due to tracking# disclosures. Maybe I'll look deeper when more free time.

(from first hand info) its always better to choose the slowest shipping option (least expensive usually also (including no extra insurance than the default)).
Will have the greatest success rates as they pass through the least amount of hands (or similarly, the hands they pass through are worth the least, iykwim)

 

[AlHoffman69]

yea looking back on post and my responses it came out backwards lol my point was ID is all i have set up and use, and honestly as I mentioned I typically do not keep checking over and over again, I will only use in the event it is clear there has been a problem. hopefully this at the very least created conversation that others can see, that was honestly my point thanks for everyones input as I am always learning and working to evolve appreciate it

 

[smoothop3563]

Yes informed I used and payed 30 more dollars for it to be overnighted from
A liquid spot …. My gf and I both ended up drinking 30 ml each of the “ ethy flu app spent 130 for 2 30ml trash … I put it in over night on a Sunday night/morning and it still took until Fri or it might have been Saturday (it was Saturday) where as from the same place I’ve seen mentioned as a go to …. And it was for me too …. Tasted like straight up alcohol. I know it says shake well on the side, but there wasn’t any to do because we ended up drinking all of it and I think it got us to sleep that night. It was it was weird. It was like we weren’t sick but we werent hi either granted we both have above average tolerances, but that’s like eating damn like Fucking 30 bars each if it was mixed correctly, but I knew when my girl didn’t get the hiccup, she gets two hiccups every time she takes a real benzo I know it sounds crazy. Maybe I don’t. I don’t think it does cause I’ve been doing dope stop doing that years and years ago we both did bids. I did nine years so then the next week when I get my script of Klonopin from the pharmacy who both got Fucking high as a bitch off of 2 2mgs each…… some needs to reevaluate their science you dig? Because it’s not novel to rip people off that have been customers for a long time tired of it so like I’m thinking they gotta get Press‘s. Or straight powder everybody so scared about delivery do you know how many packages go every day dude I looked at letters. This is why when I started ordering off the dark web, which is pretty much the best way to go I think and I haven’t done that in a while and that’s why I’ve been trying to find some where easier on this that could be trusted because we get sick you know every other week I guess I’ve been slacking on my research in some of these old places just think you know they could just rip people off and get away with it cause I mean, how easy would it be to just put alcohol on that very little benzo come on people get greedy I just know it sucks cause that was my go to also. Oh yeah that’s funny thing too. I just got a notification on informed. Also, you need to think about how many packages are already coming through the spot you’re at because I believe that makes a difference. Also they’re not gonna go through your shit random unless some you know it’s some huge package so I was going out earlier to do that taught me 10 years ago when I got out show me letters from the feds just please to ask him to please stop ordering it was hilarious. I wish I could get those letters now, but it was a lot long time ago and I have no idea where he’s at but just keep it under 14 g you’ll be all right. That’s the rule peace.

 

[smoothop3563]

Those were the clonazalam days little 10ml bottles woukd have u slumped for week if stretched … 10 ml in half a week I got banned from a gas station chain and a grocery store but all these derivatives if you study your science in a little bit, even a little bit, everyone of these derivatives should have use absolutely slumped. If not, at least you would feel the “” experiment so whenever people are just getting greedy and they’re not putting the benzo in it or it’s just a liquid that it’s easier to hide. That’s why my conclusion because I did get. I think the best is the clobromazalam liquid def was actually good from there and flubrotizalam… make sure whatever you’re getting is .5 per milliliter that’s my new rule. If I gotta deal with those people again I mean, I just make sense it stronger the flu gives it legs change the I don’t know what the fuck etiz does straight up because I was still locked up when that was going around, but I heard it was strong as fuck short half-life I figured the Bromaz is structurally similar to regular Xanax, which I have gotten recently and definitely gets me more fucked up so so the flu, Bro Tiz I thought would be the number one and I couldn’t tell you if it was that or the clobromazalam which is usually a good sign that they’re both good and I got them in two weeks apart and separate packages so I know for a fact, the clobro is good because that was a single order of one bottle and that hold us for like two days two of us so my order the flu, Bro tiz I had ordered the flupyraz w it and that stuff sucked cause then I ended up wasting my money again on that alone so basically that extra $30 only made a difference of a day and a half. I don’t see why the flu Alza was so shitty !? Does ethyl make the difference between potency of the benzo?.. the answer is yes because I had original flew out…flu Alza back the same time as clon azalam n and they were both hands down some of the strongest Benzie toes ever had my worry now is not even the fetty because I’ve been doing that since I was like 14 real stuff on the gel patches lollipops, and I’m sure there’s definitely some that would put us down which we don’t want but we both on subs too and I don’t want that shit anymore so I don’t want no Pressed zenes I’m more worried about because I still keep track a little bit and all these things come in fluctuations so you gotta figure it’s getting cut down over a period of time to the smaller places. They gotta make their money because people are putting fake Xanax bars with all this shit it’s not even benzo killing people that’s that’s the real worry because people like us who have tolerances obviously has to go a different route and I got tons of fetty test strips in xylophone test yeah I guess it’s not time to be start hiding things now for our son. That’s why we have this so that we could keep each other informed on who’s fucking doing the bullshit and who’s doing the real shit so everybody you talk to text you know it doesn’t come out spelled right but I gotta say I think you guys are overdoing it with the hidden hidden zodiac Fucking symbols trying to spell oh shit that everybody knows what it says just look stupid. I mean, I get it what you’re doing but dude look at the name of this Fucking site. Enter this app or whatever it is. I love it but everyone’s gotta just like get real with this shit. Please be informative like I read what people say nobody’s even saying like they ever ordered anything before so I’ll change it if my package gets taken, we know we got a rat a master splinter lurking as they are so I’ll go back in the shadows. Just somebody real contact me please if you want to make money I have suppose it’s gonna be consistent every week cause I don’t wanna run out and I can’t have her run out, but it’s not gonna kill us hit me up please and God save all of our souls lol

 

[AetherAlice]

Yes informed I used and payed 30 more dollars for it to be overnighted from
A liquid spot …. My gf and I both ended up drinking 30 ml each of the “ ethy flu app spent 130 for 2 30ml trash … I put it in over night on a Sunday night/morning and it still took until Fri or it might have been Saturday (it was Saturday) where as from the same place I’ve seen mentioned as a go to …. And it was for me too …. Tasted like straight up alcohol. I know it says shake well on the side, but there wasn’t any to do because we ended up drinking all of it and I think it got us to sleep that night. It was it was weird. It was like we weren’t sick but we werent hi either granted we both have above average tolerances, but that’s like eating damn like Fucking 30 bars each if it was mixed correctly, but I knew when my girl didn’t get the hiccup, she gets two hiccups every time she takes a real benzo I know it sounds crazy. Maybe I don’t. I don’t think it does cause I’ve been doing dope stop doing that years and years ago we both did bids. I did nine years so then the next week when I get my script of Klonopin from the pharmacy who both got Fucking high as a bitch off of 2 2mgs each…… some needs to reevaluate their science you dig? Because it’s not novel to rip people off that have been customers for a long time tired of it so like I’m thinking they gotta get Press‘s. Or straight powder everybody so scared about delivery do you know how many packages go every day dude I looked at letters. This is why when I started ordering off the dark web, which is pretty much the best way to go I think and I haven’t done that in a while and that’s why I’ve been trying to find some where easier on this that could be trusted because we get sick you know every other week I guess I’ve been slacking on my research in some of these old places just think you know they could just rip people off and get away with it cause I mean, how easy would it be to just put alcohol on that very little benzo come on people get greedy I just know it sucks cause that was my go to also. Oh yeah that’s funny thing too. I just got a notification on informed. Also, you need to think about how many packages are already coming through the spot you’re at because I believe that makes a difference. Also they’re not gonna go through your shit random unless some you know it’s some huge package so I was going out earlier to do that taught me 10 years ago when I got out show me letters from the feds just please to ask him to please stop ordering it was hilarious. I wish I could get those letters now, but it was a lot long time ago and I have no idea where he’s at but just keep it under 14 g you’ll be all right. That’s the rule peace.

That's frustrating, Paying more and not getting what you expected sucks

 

[D519]

It says "do not log in: never create an account or log in to save packages as this permanently links a TN to an identity" but then tells you to use ID and thats set up to your adress then you have to login to ID to see stuff unless you're just going off the emails it sends you, wich still, its connected to an email that you have to sign into

 

[AlHoffman69]

It says "do not log in: never create an account or log in to save packages as this permanently links a TN to an identity" but then tells you to use ID and thats set up to your adress then you have to login to ID to see stuff unless you're just going off the emails it sends you, wich still, its connected to an email that you have to sign into

so actually naw you can totally create ID on any address with no KYC I have on half a dozen so I can always keep an eye in the sky, not challenging you just sharing what I have done and apparently this tthread defrintly touched a nerve with some members hope all is well, certainly didnt mean to upset anyone I came across this a few times research Opspec practices...etc as I have only been at this for a year or so subscribing and such. However I have a large family with solid big brothers that have been active for 15 years at it. I just like to bounce things off the forum I see, especially on AI lol becuase AI is fucking retarded lol has anyone ever seen AI get confused lol lol so a few weeks ago I was publshing my mid terms and needed to ask a compllicated yet easy question I already knew the answer to, just wanted to confirm I was right before I proceed well AI spit some shit out that made NO SENSE AND CONTRADICTED WHAT IT HAD TOLD ME THE DAY BEFORE LOL so I typed this exact query in..."What the fuck are you talking about you just told me yesterday...........etc" and it was hilarious it started saying "yes that is correct under certain circumstaces you.....correctiom yes that is correct under certain circumstances......correction yes that is correct" anyway I literally sat back lit a ciggerette and began laughing, finally when it figured its ass from the fucking hole in the ground it gave me the proper answer. Anyway sorry guys I come from an older generation where we would say TRUST BUT VERIFY thanks for all the people that have contributed and for future members that share on this topic as far as I am concerned I simply use Tor over VPN and annoymously keep an eye on ID, of course with my no KYC acct..etc ID is legit in my book, the min arrangements are made, boom there it is, and you can sit back with out doing anything and keep an eye in the sky.....just my experience anyway

 

[xenxra]

i would like to see some real cases how where vendors were compromised soley due to tracking# disclosures. Maybe I'll look deeper when more free time.

there were a couple vendors back during the d4rknètm4rkeʇ subreddit days where the unsealed indictment mentioned things like constantly checking tracking and using timing analysis with scans and public comms. i think a couple buyers who got out on small time or managed to skirt charges also mentioned tracking coming back to bite them. it's a lot less prominent now, they really seemed to be going after people hardcore between 2016-2019 especially when h4nŞa and a7phabaʏ were compromised.

 

[quixa1]

so actually naw you can totally create ID on any address with no KYC I have on half a dozen so I can always keep an eye in the sky, not challenging you just sharing what I have done and apparently this tthread defrintly touched a nerve with some members hope all is well, certainly didnt mean to upset anyone I came across this a few times research Opspec practices...etc as I have only been at this for a year or so subscribing and such. However I have a large family with solid big brothers that have been active for 15 years at it. I just like to bounce things off the forum I see, especially on AI lol becuase AI is fucking retarded lol has anyone ever seen AI get confused lol lol so a few weeks ago I was publshing my mid terms and needed to ask a compllicated yet easy question I already knew the answer to, just wanted to confirm I was right before I proceed well AI spit some shit out that made NO SENSE AND CONTRADICTED WHAT IT HAD TOLD ME THE DAY BEFORE LOL so I typed this exact query in..."What the fuck are you talking about you just told me yesterday...........etc" and it was hilarious it started saying "yes that is correct under certain circumstaces you.....correctiom yes that is correct under certain circumstances......correction yes that is correct" anyway I literally sat back lit a ciggerette and began laughing, finally when it figured its ass from the fucking hole in the ground it gave me the proper answer. Anyway sorry guys I come from an older generation where we would say TRUST BUT VERIFY thanks for all the people that have contributed and for future members that share on this topic as far as I am concerned I simply use Tor over VPN and annoymously keep an eye on ID, of course with my no KYC acct..etc ID is legit in my book, the min arrangements are made, boom there it is, and you can sit back with out doing anything and keep an eye in the sky.....just my experience anyway

Everyone’s setup and approach are a little different.
And yeah, that trust but verify mindset is always solid. Even with AI, forums or anything else, it never hurts to double check and make sure your info lines up. Appreciate you posting all this, it’s good perspective and gives a lot to think about for anyone looking into this stuff

 

[rivera]

Came across some pretty interesting reading this morning and I have seen a lot on this topic guilty myself but I think the take away is RELAX it will be there when it gets there checking every two min actually can present problem STAY SAFE

I think its a bad idea to track using T0r

 

[AlHoffman69]

there were a couple vendors back during the d4rknètm4rkeʇ subreddit days where the unsealed indictment mentioned things like constantly checking tracking and using timing analysis with scans and public comms. i think a couple buyers who got out on small time or managed to skirt charges also mentioned tracking coming back to bite them. it's a lot less prominent now, they really seemed to be going after people hardcore between 2016-2019 especially when h4nŞa and a7phabaʏ were compromised.

"Complacency fosters weakness we MUST STAY VIGILANT IN OUR PURSUIT" I appreciate that post as it to some degree validates different angles if the conversation and hell if anything maybe the folks that are constantly frieking out because the vndrs are not updating min by min trckng#$ lol then again we live in a Amazon world you can get ANYTHING YOU THINK OF/HEAR OF TO YOUR DOOR IN 3 HOURS lol what would these poor kids have done in the 80s HAVING TO FIND A PAYOHONE TO PAGE A "FRIEND" FROM AND THEN STAND THERE WHILE THE "FRIEND" FOUND A PAYPHONE TO CALL YOU BACK, then you had to find someone who knew someone that had a car that was cool to go meet your friend it made binges hard as fuck lol joke I lived in the inner city however the first part of that lil humor was reality point is CHILL OUT