New Rules For Hydrocodone

Do you never ask "how does the rest of the world deal with pain?" Oxy's should not be prescribed as much as they are in the USA. I race motorbikes and have done for years. I get smahsed all the time, my mates get mashed up as well, all the time. Outside hospital the most we would get is Trammies or maybe the odd DHC. Point being if the vast majority of other people can get on with it why are these drugs needed so much in America? I am not talking about you people on here, not for a second. I know that we are all different and some people are in so much pain they can barely cope. I know people need oxy's etc to live. I am talking about the huge scale of a problem. I know some people dont like the government doing things but look at the health service I have access to here in the UK, unconditionally. compared to what you have. Are you seriously saying you prefer the states because its your own choice etc etc ? I've been round the whole world. Parts of America were shockingly poor, I could not believe the scale of the homeless problem in LA. No other first world country would allow that to happen. Governments have their purpose. I've been for 2 mri's, a cat scann, 3 appointments with different specialists, a bone scann. 5 appointments with an anaesthetist  in the last 24 over my last crash and it cost me........................£0. They even paid for my taxis. I work so pay national insurance i suppose but if i was out of work it would not make one bit of a difference. I always try and be open minded about things. The states does some things good but health care is not one of them.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Opinions are like Assholes, and everyone's got one!  /default_wink.png 

 
Oh I forgot to say about the lignocaine infusion as I went on a rant! ha ha. I've been buggered for ages with my back and recently got a lignocaine infusion and it has been really effective for my back. The anaesthetist said that it has been proven to work very well specifically on the spine and i would agree. If anyone is having acute chronic back pain maybe try it. Another example of the good old NHS! all free. 

 
You have a rather odd stand on things. I mean you aren't here to find IOPs to increase your APAP collection from bottles around the world. You're here, like all of the rest of us to acquire things we can't get through our health care system for whatever reason. You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I just don't understand how you wanting v@ls is different than an American member wanting ox seas.

 
You have a rather odd stand on things. I mean you aren't here to find IOPs to increase your APAP collection from bottles around the world. You're here, like all of the rest of us to acquire things we can't get through our health care system for whatever reason. You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I just don't understand how you wanting v@ls is different than an American member wanting ox seas.
I sensed a little hypocrisy myself...

 
What are we discussing? people wanting to use drugs recreationally like what I am doing with the Vals is different to oxies, extremely addictive drugs that ruin peoples lives all the time. Look at the figures, they are killing more people than car accidents. I'm saying I think they should be controlled. Like driving licences are. Like guns are. Like other really dangerous shit is. i have no idea what IOP's or APAP'a are. 

 
IOPs-international online pharmacy

APAP: common letters to represent tylenol, acetaminophen, paracetamol or whatever they call it in your country.

Look at the figures for people in ERs from benzo withdrawals. Everything in the world is dangerous in excess....and most things are perfectly safe in moderation. Some peoples stupidity should not affect the majorities rights and options. Survival of the fittest a little bit maybe.

 
This board is called "Drug Buyers Guide", and not everyone is on here for Recreational drug use as you may assume as a new member, but even if they were, I don't think you are in a position to preach to the choir. You may want to take a step back and see what this board is all about before you continue to ramble. It is highly suggested.

-YB

 
What are we discussing? people wanting to use drugs recreationally like what I am doing with the Vals is different to oxies, extremely addictive drugs that ruin peoples lives all the time. Look at the figures, they are killing more people than car accidents. I'm saying I think they should be controlled. Like driving licences are. Like guns are. Like other really dangerous shit is. i have no idea what IOP's or APAP'a are.
They are highly controlled! Where I live I can buy a gun easily. Trying to legally obtain pain meds is next to impossible. It's not a matter of suckling it up and enduring some minor pain.

It's the difference between lying there moaning in pain or having a life! I'm sure there are some people on here looking for "fun" but I think most legitimately need what they're looking for.

If it was so easy to get prescriptions in the good old USA, then that would be a lot easier than running around sending moneygrams and risking our money.

By the way, that APAP is killing more people than the opiates.

 
I could definately get a gun, a cc permit, and ammunition with less time, expense, or control compared to pain meds. They already gave me a license. In fact with fifteen minutes and a phone in my hand I could find heroin.

 
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