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Hi Guys,

So I have a very hard time sleeping my sleep times are always out of wack I can go to bed at 12 one night then 6am the next one issue is I am a nurse and have shift work sleep disorder but I also have such bad neck and back issues due to a very bad MVA not just once but 4 times all due to some1 else ppl running thr light and so on just dumb drivers anyways my body feel very tired but my mind just races I have to sleep with the TV on and that bugs my partner as well as our baby one thing that's weird about me is my doc says I am A receptive to dru-G$ like I dream when I take p@in meds I don't when I am off them I get a much fuller night sleep with them also they don't affect me in any negative ways I don't know if my dopamine levels are just really low or what anyways I have never taken any kind of sleep med but I am at the point where I think they mite help me a lot and my family life but I am sooo worried about what to expect from them as I said I'm a nurse so I know the medical side of the drugs but on a personal level what can I expect with like say @mbien and other insomnia dru-G$ Thank You For Your Help,

Kindsty

 
I used to be addicted to sleeping with the t.v. on and when I couldn't I would go into a panic that I would lay awake all night.  This went on for years.  The t.v. would also wake me up every couple of hours and one night when I woke up  I just turned the sound off and that morning not only did I feel great but I was wondering what happened to the fibromyalgia and back pain I wake up with every morning?  It was just gone.  Now I think I never had fybro at all and a lot of my aches and pains were just from having that damn t.v. on all night and the t.v. was keeping me from getting good sleep.   Just wanted to share that with you, I don't have any experience with sleep meds.  Good luck.

 
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I just use Kirkland over the counter stuff and it's very effective. I only have to take a Val once every week or 2.

Most of the time they work for me. I can send you the actual name of the active ingredient. Maybe try it first and you won't have to take something strong like Ambi3n. I take a lot of pain meds too and they still work.

 
I take vals everyday and I have tried herbal over the counter and even like Advil PM

 
Suzie said:
I used to be addicted to sleeping with the t.v. on and when I couldn't I would go into a panic that I would lay awake all night.  This went on for years.  The t.v. would also wake me up every couple of hours and one night when I woke up  I just turned the sound off and that morning not only did I feel great but I was wondering what happened to the fibromyalgia and back pain I wake up with every morning?  It was just gone.  Now I think I never had fybro at all and a lot of my aches and pains were just from having that damn t.v. on all night and the t.v. was keeping me from getting good sleep.   Just wanted to share that with you, I don't have any experience with sleep meds.  Good luck.
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Wow that's odd I turn the sound off all the way to but its funny u say that because I think there is something to it because my son wakes up every time I have my comp on or the internet.

 
kindsty said:
Hi Guys,

So I have a very hard time sleeping my sleep times are always out of wack I can go to bed at 12 one night then 6am the next one issue is I am a nurse and have shift work sleep disorder but I also have such bad neck and back issues due to a very bad MVA not just once but 4 times all due to some1 else ppl running thr light and so on just dumb drivers anyways my body feel very tired but my mind just races I have to sleep with the TV on and that bugs my partner as well as our baby one thing that's weird about me is my doc says I am A receptive to dru-G$ like I dream when I take p@in meds I don't when I am off them I get a much fuller night sleep with them also they don't affect me in any negative ways I don't know if my dopamine levels are just really low or what anyways I have never taken any kind of sleep med but I am at the point where I think they mite help me a lot and my family life but I am sooo worried about what to expect from them as I said I'm a nurse so I know the medical side of the drugs but on a personal level what can I expect with like say @mbien and other insomnia dru-G$ Thank You For Your Help,

I could write a novella about Ambien! I've had a valid Rx since 2001 and continue to have one to this day - as well as supplements due to tolerance increase. You're a nurse, so maybe you won't run into this issue - Doctor's are very reluctant to prescribe Ambien/Zolp. I imagine it's akin to people who need pain medicine and feel like they have to beg for it.

I started taking two 10mg Ambien 2005 (maybe 2004). Here are the pros/cons as I've experienced it.

Pros:

You won't wake up groggy - even with less than 4/5 hours of sleep

You can breast feed (if you still are)

You can take it during pregnancy (I'm not suggesting anything!!)

It's an amazing anti-anxiety medication (I've taken it during the day for extreme anxiety w/o drowsiness)

You *should still be able to awake if your baby cries (not as likely in the first 1-2 hours after taking)

Cons:

Alcohol and sedatives will greatly enhance the effect

If prescribed 10mg - break it in half the first night or two and make sure you're not alone

A lot of people report amnesia - driving, waking up outside, baking, bubble baths

- I had a lot of amnesia initially, especially if I took it and still tried to function.

You must take it while you're in your bed and ready to sleep.

You'll develop a tolerance, especially if used nightly.

Neither pro nor con - it has an euphoria like effect. This too will diminish with long-term use - but it never completely goes away.

It's not routinely tested in standard urine panels - and there are currently no federal standards for testing cutoff amounts. If you need any more information, let me know....I happen to think Ambien is a wonderful medication.

Bloom

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It sucks using meds for sleep But I worked shift work for 20 years and it screwed my sleep up really bad. Thank god I'm on a steady day shift now but shift work really messed me up. Anyway, I take 1.5 Clonazepham and it does the job. It doesn't keep me sleeping straight through 5 or 6 hours , but it helps. I never tried ambien. It might help me, not sure. I tried zopiclone and that did nothing. I tried Temazepham 2omg , it was ok but I felt I needed more. My doctor didn't want to give me more. This Clonazepham came from my sleep doctor telling me it would help with my grinding at night and it also helps with anxiety and I have that too. So it's a win , win for me. Shift work will mess anyone up after working it so long. Kills your body. Eating habits. Etc.....

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I've never taken Clonazepham - but friends (real ones) either love it or loathe it. The supporters are addicted to the anxiety relief it offers, the friends who've tried to reduce/eliminate their intake suffered miserably in the process. One friend came out the other side after three nights of not sleeping - and a new vim and vigor she attributed to having Clonazepham removed from her system. She never looked back. Other friends, could never imagine life without it. Personally, I'd rather pop a 5mg Valium for anxiety - which doesn't actually do much - than take Clonazepham. Both are addicting, of course - but Clonazepham seems much stronger.

Any thoughts?

Bloom

 
Hi I wrote about my experience with sleeping pills on another thread in this forum if you want to read it. My mind races also at night but thats bcuz im bipolar. So shutting my racing thoughts off is something that only a sleeping pill can conquer.even tho im stable on anti psychotic meds. I suspect tho that you may be just overly stressed and tired from work and so the tv calms you down so heres what me n my husband do. Because hes adhd and stressed at work and exhausted and the tv helps him sleep and I need absolute quiet, me n my daughter go in the room n shut the door and fall asleep first. My husband falls asleep to the tv and then when the tv automatically shuts off he wakes up and goes to bed. Also he did a sleep study and found that he has sleep apnea. It was connected with his troubles w sleeping. So thats him. For me my insomnia came on at 12 and not only do I have the racing thoughts but meth use when I was younger made it worse. I can stay up for 5 days with no drugs at all now. Your trouble sleeping tho seems mild compared to me so I would not recommend ambien. I would recommend zquil. Make sure you have 8 hrs allotted for sleep and youll get good rest and not wake up groggy. Also there are scrip meds like lunesta 2mg, trazadone in a low dose and .5mg xanax. Valerian and melatonin otc can be helpful also but I would talk to your dr first and try to find out what the root of the problem is first. It may be something not having to do with insomnia at all. Good luck.

 
Ambien and Zopiclone have short half lives (3-4 hrs)and can sometimes lead to waking in the middle of the night for me.

 
@schrela might help you with this one, but I believe it's the .the longer the half life it stays in your body the longer it stays with your body. I'm not a doctor or @Jackie Chiles inside joke! But I don't know anything about plasma rates but I do know half life of a drug I google it for you, 

This is the period of time required for the concentration or amount of drug in the body to be reduced by one-half. We usually consider the half life of a drug in relation to the amount of the drug in plasma. A drug's plasma half-life depends on how quickly the drug is eliminated from the plasma.Dec 18, 2015

im a blond, all I know is when I got out of jail and was  put on probation  animated do urines that were observed. I made sure I did Xanax because they have a short  have  Life while others like Valium have a very long long half life as well as klonopins.  so when I try to beat a drug test I  always take Xanax because I think I have four days to get clean but iI was wrong.  No matter how much water I drink it came up dirty five days later and then I spent nine months glorious months at Hamilton County  Center for violating my probation! 

 I'm sure more information will be needed because I knew nothing except beating drug test and that drugs that have long half life stay the fuck away from them !

 
Ambien is better if you don't want the groggy feeling in the morning that zopiclone can leave many with.I'm lucky that I don't get the groggy felling the next day that many do.But if you are going to try z-drugs try not to use them on a regular nightly basis as they just won't work after a while,also they can cause addiction.Try some of the otc sleep meds with the main ingredient starting with dyh something it's the active ingredient in nytol but if I use these I ALLWAYS use the pharmacy brand tabs as your just paying extra  for the brand type like nytol.

Peace 

Bliss.....

 
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