PROTOCHEM BULK RC SUPPLIER

F33n said:

Ok guys here’s my review.

Communication- Dude was respectful (unlike some vendors), answered any questions in a timely manner, had a good grasp of English.
10/10

Shipping- Never had a package come so fast from this kind of vendor. Less than a week from payment to touchdown. Around 4 days from drop off to door. Opsec was good.
10/10

Product- Everything was as should be.
10/10

For once trying out a new vendor turned out very successful.

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This is great to hear.

I hope dude is legit. For some reason he took it personally that I said it’s a red flag that I have to use a custom tracking terminal. Now I can’t even get an email reply. Starting to think I just lost $700 and a drop. What a shame.

SternbachIV said:

I hope dude is legit. For some reason he took it personally that I said it’s a red flag that I have to use a custom tracking terminal. Now I can’t even get an email reply. Starting to think I just lost $700 and a drop. What a shame.

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Your order is already on the way, rest assured

SternbachIV said:

I hope dude is legit. For some reason he took it personally that I said it’s a red flag that I have to use a custom tracking terminal. Now I can’t even get an email reply. Starting to think I just lost $700 and a drop. What a shame.

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What did you order

SternbachIV said:

The tracking number I was given has to be tracked through a custom portal, and isn’t recognized by 17track or any other tracking service. Not saying he’s playing me, but that is a pretty big red flag. I’ll update but proceed with caution for the time being.

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So let me get this straight, did you wait at all (like longer than 16 hours) to see if it showed up on the 17track? I went and looked and didn’t see it immediately, so I waited a day and then it was there. They were also kind enough to send me tracking through a custom portal, so in the instance I had no patience I could see it there.

SternbachIV said:

I didn’t give you the wrong address I asked if I could change it. I told you it was completely fine if not. You said it was fine. So again you’re trying to portray me as an idiot. I hope everything lands fine, and if it does, I’ll leave an honest review, but as far as ordering in the future I’ll look elsewhere. I’ve also sent you 3 emails with no response. Didn’t want to have to do this here.

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And they were kind enough to swap your address and name after you messed it up. Sure, you said it’s ok if they didn’t change it, but they did it anyway to be a good vendor.
There’s only one person portraying themselves as an idiot, and another party just stating facts.

SternbachIV said:

I hope dude is legit. For some reason he took it personally that I said it’s a red flag that I have to use a custom tracking terminal. Now I can’t even get an email reply. Starting to think I just lost $700 and a drop. What a shame.

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Maybe they aren’t emailing you back because you’re being rude, impatient and spamming them with emails. They’re shipping from across the world dude, give them a little time or leeway.

And throughout this whole thread they’ve been polite and trying to help you with your various self-created issues. I treated them with respect and patience, and they treat me with respect in turn. Even when the order was Gs of one product and not one of each like I purchased, I emailed them about it and they responded quickly and apologized. I offered to pay

shadowtester said:

So let me get this straight, did you wait at all (like longer than 16 hours) to see if it showed up on the 17track? I went and looked and didn’t see it immediately, so I waited a day and then it was there. They were also kind enough to send me tracking through a custom portal, so in the instance I had no patience I could see it there.

And they were kind enough to swap your address and name after you messed it up. Sure, you said it’s ok if they didn’t change it, but they did it anyway to be a good vendor.
There’s only one person portraying themselves as an idiot, and another party just stating facts.

Maybe they aren’t emailing you back because you’re being rude, impatient and spamming them with emails. They’re shipping from across the world dude, give them a little time or leeway.

And throughout this whole thread they’ve been polite and trying to help you with your various self-created issues. I treated them with respect and patience, and they treat me with respect in turn. Even when the order was Gs of one product and not one of each like I purchased, I emailed them about it and they responded quickly and apologized. I offered to pay

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because I did get 2Gs of a product, so it would be fair of them to ask for payment for the other sample, but they said don’t worry they’ll take care of it. I don’t even want to be a dick to you, but you’re harming the reputation of a vendor that has nothing to deserve it and I feel the need to speak up.

Try being patient and respectful next time. Everybody makes mistakes - fears of being scammed are obviously warranted but your “evidence” of it is weak. And as to them not emailing you back, I wouldn’t really want to email you either so I don’t blame them.

Next time maybe sit down with a cup of relaxing tea before going on tirades about scams designed in your mind.

I appreciate all the support from the community. I wish the client well wishes also. I was only writing on here to clarify there is no red flags because it can be misunderstood by potential clients even when there was no wrong doing. I hope everyone is having a good day and soon we will have a menu update so we can offer our clients and partners more products !

shadowtester said:

because I did get 2Gs of a product, so it would be fair of them to ask for payment for the other sample, but they said don’t worry they’ll take care of it. I don’t even want to be a dick to you, but you’re harming the reputation of a vendor that has nothing to deserve it and I feel the need to speak up.

Try being patient and respectful next time. Everybody makes mistakes - fears of being scammed are obviously warranted but your “evidence” of it is weak. And as to them not emailing you back, I wouldn’t really want to email you either so I don’t blame them.

Next time maybe sit down with a cup of relaxing tea before going on tirades about scams designed in your mind.

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Yes still not on 17track. Clearly you’re unaware of the scam where you’re given a tracking number and a custom portal to track through, showing updates, customs issues, delivery attempts, etc just depends on the scam.


Again, all I did was make a post mentioning that you may not be able to track through normal, trusted channels. With a new vendor, that’s completely fair. You know what this site is for right? The best thing that could’ve been done here is for him to either not say nothing on here and respond to me via email, wait a few weeks for it to be delivered, see me post a great review, and watch a flood of orders come in. That’s what potential customers are looking for. Instead he misrepresents me and what I said. You have no idea what/how our email correspondence went down, so disregard your opinion there.

ONCE AGAIN, I didn’t say he scammed me. I pointed out I had to use a non-secure (http rather than https) tracking portal which pointed directly to a server IP. If that’s not a red flag, I don’t know what is. Not unheard of, but (in my over a decade in this business experience), more often than not it that’s indicative of a scam. Not every time though. I’ll repeat my point as clearly as possible this time.

If you decide to order from this vendor, you may get a tracking number which can’t be tracked through normal channels. This being a new vendor, that is indeed reason to “proceed with caution”. I hope in a week or two I get to make a post that the eagle has landed, and a few weeks later the lcms test results. Which literally only stand to help this guy and the community. Maybe, I keep them to myself now, who knows.

I get it you’re trying to help him. You’re probably reading his mags right now, but I assure you, you’re not. Making me spell all this out was far worse. I would dm you but you’re not even a contributor, and your account was created about a month before his, so I don’t know why I’d take anything you say into consideration.

proton369 said:

I appreciate all the support from the community. I wish the client well wishes also. I was only writing on here to clarify there is no red flags because it can be misunderstood by potential clients even when there was no wrong doing. I hope everyone is having a good day and soon we will have a menu update so we can offer our clients and partners more products !

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I wish you the best as well man. i didn’t say there was any wrongdoing. Here’s my original post just so everyone can see it is beyond reasonable.

SternbachIV said:

The tracking number I was given has to be tracked through a custom portal, and isn’t recognized by 17track or any other tracking service. Not saying he’s playing me, but that is a pretty big red flag. I’ll update but proceed with caution for the time being.

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You’re the reason it went sideways because you misrepresented me and my actions. Just because you say it isn’t a red flag, doesn’t make it not a red flag. As stated before, when I get the order, I’ll post an initial review, stating how it tests via reagents, then a few weeks later with full lcms results. Which, by the way, are very expensive to get, and only serve to help you by posting them here. I don’t read these mags myself, so I won’t be able to give any details there. I’m not out to get you, I’m out to help people make informed decisions. Best regards, and here’s to an optimistic future.

All is OK friends! When the package land all of this will all be OK. For now we just wait watch! Wish everyone all the best!

proton369 said:

All is OK friends! When the package land all of this will all be OK. For now we just wait watch! Wish everyone all the best!

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This should have been your first response. Would’ve avoided this. Like I said before, I sincerely hope you’re legit, and stand by everything I said before. When I get it and post a detailed review it’ll be an huge boost for you. How many vendors have third party independent lab results posted for their mags. Virtually zero.

5g of:

Ethyl-flu
Ethyl-brom
Sr-17

SternbachIV said:

ONCE AGAIN, I didn’t say he scammed me.

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“Now I can’t even get an email reply. Starting to think I just lost $700 and a drop. What a shame”
Yeah doesn’t imply that he scammed you at all.

And my account’s a lot older than that, no idea where’s that’s coming from or why. Maybe you have good intentions man, maybe not, but you’re rude, whiny., and think that you know exactly what they should’ve said and done to make things perfect. Guess I’ll take your word for it, but you dont seem like you aren’t reading the mags. Laters

shadowtester said:

“Now I can’t even get an email reply. Starting to think I just lost $700 and a drop. What a shame”
Yeah doesn’t imply that he scammed you at all.

And my account’s a lot older than that, no idea where’s that’s coming from or why. Maybe you have good intentions man, maybe not, but you’re rude, whiny., and think that you know exactly what they should’ve said and done to make things perfect. Guess I’ll take your word for it, but you dont seem like you aren’t reading the mags. Laters

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After he continued to misrepresent what I had done and said, I said “starting to think I lost $700 and a drop”. That’s not implying he scammed me, but I’m uninterested in arguing semantics with you.

Your account was created Dec, 24. His Jan, 25. Learn to use the site bud. I don’t really care if you think I’m rude. Again, go reread my original post, I certainly didn’t come out swinging. Instead of responding to the question I asked via email (yes I wait 24hrs on 17track), his initial response to my (once again, more than fair original post) he misrepresent my actions to portray me as as idiot.

Again jot sure why you feel the need to get involved, but I’m done responding to you. Your opinion stumping for a new vendor could not be less relevant to me. Nice jab at the end too, but wouldn’t mags like this have the exact opposite effect? Don’t really know and don’t really care. lol

Have a good one, bud.