Alex (Formerly Troy-Pharma.com)

Well, I received the test kit that you suggested we order and the pills proved to be fakes. The test was positive, but for some kind of amphetamine compound or something else that tests like that kind of compound. Who really knows what we've been swallowing with these things? I just knew they weren't what I had ordered because of the way my body reacted.

So, I am glad that I have decided to avoid these guys for awhile. Maybe someday they'll be able to explain all this, but I haven't heard any kind of sensible explanation from anyone yet. It's just ridiculous, really.
What was it that you ordered? The 853s? And what color were your results?
What kind of explanation would you find sensible? Unfortunately, I think this is the new normal. The chance of receiving fake meds has gone way up (at least for certain medications), and I have a difficult time seeing how that changing any time soon. So, depending on your level of risk tolerance, you might be best off sitting on the sidelines for a while. But as I said before, there are still far more good meds going out than bad.

 
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What was it that you ordered? The 853s? And what color were your results?

What kind of explanation would you find sensible? Unfortunately, I think this is the new normal. The chance of receiving fake meds has gone way up (at least for certain medications), and I have a difficult time seeing how that changing any time soon. So, depending on your level of risk tolerance, you might be best off sitting on the sidelines for a while. But as I said before, there are still far more good meds going out than bad.
Honestly, it really seems to me that *most* of the issues involve Vikings -- so maybe if you can find an alternative that works, moderately high dose c0d33n or dyhidro' comes to mind -- now might be the time to check into that.
What I'm saying is, avoid the vikes for now if you can.

*this post wasn't addressed to you specifically mr c. :)

 
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Honestly, it really seems to me that *most* of the issues involve Vikings -- so maybe if you can find an alternative that works, moderately high dose c0d33n or dyhidro' comes to mind -- now might be the time to check into that.

What I'm saying is, avoid the vikes for now if you can.
I think you can get even more granular than that. Avoid the 853s if you can.

 
What was it that you ordered? The 853s? And what color were your results?

What kind of explanation would you find sensible? Unfortunately, I think this is the new normal. The chance of receiving fake meds has gone way up (at least for certain medications), and I have a difficult time seeing how that changing any time soon.
853.  Dark Brown.

Well, a sensible explanation might include something like the following:   "Sorry we've been sending out fakes.  That's bad for our business and very dangerous for our customers.   How can we expect anyone to order from us unless we can demonstrate that we know what we're doing?  We know what happened.  We began buying these meds from a new supplier and it turned out he was selling us fakes.   We have discovered that and we don't use that supplier anymore."  

Or, maybe something like: "Sorry we we've been sending out fakes.   That's bad for our business and very dangerous for our customers.    How can we expect anyone to order from us unless we can demonstrate that we know what we're doing?  We are now testing what we buy from our suppliers so now we know what it is that we're selling and now we know that we are actually selling what we are promising to sell."

 
Can we please move this discussion to quality thread? Im only seeing one of every 10 posts on here about actual ordering and we need to remember this thread belongs to alex. We need to keep it clean.

Well, I received the test kit that you suggested we order and the pills proved to be fakes.  The test was positive, but for some kind of amphetamine compound or something else that tests like that kind of compound.   Who really knows what we've been swallowing with these things?  I just knew they weren't what I had ordered because of the way my body reacted. 

So, I am glad that I have decided to avoid these guys for awhile.  Maybe someday they'll be able to explain all this, but I haven't heard any kind of sensible explanation from anyone yet.  It's just ridiculous, really.
 
Can we please move this discussion to quality thread? Im only seeing one of every 10 posts on here about actual ordering and we need to remember this thread belongs to alex. We need to keep it clean.
Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned again that the fakes came from alex.   

 
853.  Dark Brown.

Well, a sensible explanation might include something like the following:   "Sorry we've been sending out fakes.  That's bad for our business and very dangerous for our customers.   How can we expect anyone to order from us unless we can demonstrate that we know what we're doing?  We know what happened.  We began buying these meds from a new supplier and it turned out he was selling us fakes.   We have discovered that and we don't use that supplier anymore."  

Or, maybe something like: "Sorry we we've been sending out fakes.   That's bad for our business and very dangerous for our customers.    How can we expect anyone to order from us unless we can demonstrate that we know what we're doing?  We are now testing what we buy from our suppliers so now we know what it is that we're selling and now we know that we are actually selling what we are promising to sell."
I'll respond in the Quality thread per SS's suggestion.

 
I think you can get even more granular than that. Avoid the 853s if you can.
Yeah, I think I got lucky in getting some 853s from Alex shortly ago that seem to be legit. But next order will be something different. The good news is Alex does acknowlege problems in the system and is working to make sure his customers get the real deal, as best as he can in his situation.

 
Shouldn't we also discuss quality on the vendor's tread?

Order date:

Recieve Date

Product

Quality

?
Of course you should.  

But, I've said all I really have to say.   I was sold fakes by Alex.   I don't know exactly what it was that I received and used.   Alex probably doesn't have the slightest idea what he's selling, for whatever that might be worth as an explanation.   

Caveat emptor.   

 
Of course you should.  

But, I've said all I really have to say.   I was sold fakes by Alex.   I don't know exactly what it was that I received and used.   Alex probably doesn't have the slightest idea what he's selling, for whatever that might be worth as an explanation.   

Caveat emptor.   
For the members that questioned my integrity I told you I got faked whites

 
Jjray, I don't think anyone questioned your integrity as im sure no one is questioning Mc friendly integrity. And yes peanut we do need to report quality on alexs thread but I think when it becomes more of a 2 page conversation about quality of meds and talking about the problems with sy vendors, how the meds affect us, and test results, I think it should be discussed further in depth on the quality thread. Example if I received bunk 853s from alex, I would post so here and then say something to the effect of please see my continued comments in quality. Of course we need to hear of poor quality here but not 2 pages of members going back n forth with complaints and arguments about it. Jjray, if you remember when u posted about quality, you made a strong statement of alex sold me fake meds. We asked you to be more detailed and give alex a chance to reconsile the situation before posting something like that. Had nothing to do with whether we believed you or not

 
For the members that questioned my integrity I told you I got faked whites
Jjray, I don't think anyone questioned your integrity as im sure no one is questioning Mc friendly integrity. And yes peanut we do need to report quality on alexs thread but I think when it becomes more of a 2 page conversation about quality of meds and talking about the problems with sy vendors, how the meds affect us, and test results, I think it should be discussed further in depth on the quality thread. Example if I received bunk 853s from alex, I would post so here and then say something to the effect of please see my continued comments in quality. Of course we need to hear of poor quality here but not 2 pages of members going back n forth with complaints and arguments about it. Jjray, if you remember when u posted about quality, you made a strong statement of alex sold me fake meds. We asked you to be more detailed and give alex a chance to reconsile the situation before posting something like that. Had nothing to do with whether we believed you or not
Exactly what SS said.
Honestly, jjray1, no one questioned your integrity and stating so in such a manner is a bit offensive.

It was ME who originally replied to your post, and all I did was recommend you contact the vendor - and when you said you had and he was working on it I said I woulda included that in my original post. A lot of your posts are coming across kinda abrasive and combative. And unnecessarily so. We're all on the same side here, trying to look out for each other and shitty attitudes help exactly zero people on either front.

 
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Exactly what SS said.

Honestly, jjray1, no one questioned your integrity and stating so in such a manner is a bit offensive, to tell the truth.

It was ME who originally replied to your post, and all I did was recommend you contact the vendor - and when you said you had and he was working on it I said I woulda included that in my original post. A lot of your posts are coming across kinda abrasive and combative. And unnecessarily so. We're all on the same side here, trying to look out for each other and shitty attitudes help exactly zero people on either front.
Offensive some of those posts that were in reference toward me made it seem as tho I was lying

 
Offensive some of those posts that were in reference toward me made it seem as tho I was lying
I think you might be a little defensive, man. No one called you a liar, not that I can tell. I did call you abrasive and combative, tho. But there ya go....

Ya know what. I'm done here. No offense intended to anyone.

Good luck to everyone.

 
I think you might be a little defensive, man. No one called you a liar, not that I can tell. I did call you abrasive and combative, tho. But there ya go....

Ya know what. I'm done here. No offense intended to anyone.

Good luck to everyone.
What ever dude thats the way I took it

 
Not talking or posting about specific carriers, describing packaging and not using code when posting about specific drugs is not mentioned in the rules.  But we don't do it for common sense reasons.  We don't know who is reading here and we want to continue to protect our vendors and ourselves.  We use codes to prevent this site from popping up when someone (LE) does a google search.  I don't think this poster meant any harm and was just trying to share.  Live and learn /default_smile.png
Yes, HELLO! Newbies... /default_smile.png

 
why was mc (the guy that started this thread) banned? does that have anything to do with vender or is everything still good about to give him a try just tripple checking the correct email is jrtrnewemail01@gmail.com?

 
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