Alex (Formerly Troy-Pharma.com)

Suzie said:
I don't know what would make pills weak but I never think it is because they are old.  I have p/k's and vals that are over ten years old that I inherited when a friend I was taking care of in my home passed away (AIDS) and I take one now and then and they still work fine. 
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No disrespect but you would have to have kept them in a time capsule. 10 years, they should be dust. I not saying you're wrong but it's hard to believe and a lot meds loose their potency over time.

Then the pk's we are getting are counterfeit. I lined up all my 853's in 2 columns and got out my Mr. Magoo magnifying glass. All the markings were perfect. I broke everyone in half to see if anyone one of them seemed harder to break. They all broke easily. I remember a few months back trying to break a pill in half and I could not. I had to use a pill cutter.

 
I have no doubt that the pills you guys have been getting are counterfeit HB and I never meant to imply otherwise.  The pills I have left from my friend are intact although they do leave a little dust on my fingers and I should also mention I have no tolerance for these so I can't really tell if they've lost any potency but I do definitely feel it when I take one.

 
headbanger said:
No disrespect but you would have to have kept them in a time capsule. 10 years, they should be dust. I not saying you're wrong but it's hard to believe and a lot meds loose their potency over time.

Then the pk's we are getting are counterfeit. I lined up all my 853's in 2 columns and got out my Mr. Magoo magnifying glass. All the markings were perfect. I broke everyone in half to see if anyone one of them seemed harder to break. They all broke easily. I remember a few months back trying to break a pill in half and I could not. I had to use a pill cutter.
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To be honest I just tested my percs not 0xi at all I hve no idea what it is but its not 0ix I had a idea they where fake but been to lazy to taste they smell very strong and have no taste like 0xi I know been on them for over 8 years also they are thinker then the same meds I get from my ph@rma they made me very ill and sleepy hot and sweaty I don't hold this to A thou I will say again he is making it right but from now on I am only buying what's on the list.

 
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Suzie said:
I don't know what would make pills weak but I never think it is because they are old.  I have p/k's and vals that are over ten years old that I inherited when a friend I was taking care of in my home passed away (AIDS) and I take one now and then and they still work fine. 
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Believe me if you want , if not then don't. Anyway I had 5 name brand Percocet I found in my grannies medicine cabinet leftover from her knee surgery. And maybe it was in my head but they actually seemed MORE potent then the ones I get every month form my dr and those are 7.5 (ones from grannies were only 5's). So as to not drag this out any further, the age of a pill will not affect its potency in any possible way except for MAYBE the tab will become a bit brittle, that's the extent of any negative effect

THERES MY INPUT, ALTHOUGH NO ONE EVEN ASKED FOR IT /default_cool.png/default_tongue.png

PEACE OUT, MUCH LOVE /default_biggrin.png

(BTW THESE PK  WERE 16 YEARS OLD)

SAME HERE, NO OFFENSE, SIMPLY SHARING MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENIENCE.

 
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Suzie I'm sorry if I offended you. I did not mean to imply you were lying but that's unbelievable that they still work.

I'm on my way out back to my parent house where I grew up and look for some Lemons or Roers under the bed. You've given me hope. Maybe I'll find that one that rolled under the bed 20 years ago but was too wasted to look for it. /default_smile.png

 
headbanger said:
Suzie I'm sorry if I offended you. I did not mean to imply you were lying but that's unbelievable that they still work.

I'm on my way out back to my parent house where I grew up and look for some Lemons or Roers under the bed. You've given me hope. Maybe I'll find that one that rolled under the bed 20 years ago but was too wasted to look for it. /default_smile.png
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I wasn't offended HB /default_smile.png and good luck finding some.  Maybe stash a couple when the good ones are coming again and you might find them when you most need them.

 
Mr C,

Pleas post A's response as I am ready to place my first order with him(R informed me he is is out for a month or 2) and I am a little reluctant based on the potency reported in recent posts.

Can't wait until these guys get the good old yellows( which I take daily) back in the pipeline.

Happy Holidays to all.

 
kindsty said:
To be honest I just tested my percs not 0xi at all I hve no idea what it is but its not 0ix I had a idea they where fake but been to lazy to taste they smell very strong and have no taste like 0xi I know been on them for over 8 years also they are thinker then the same meds I get from my ph@rma they made me very ill and sleepy hot and sweaty I don't hold this to A thou I will say again he is making it right but from now on I am only buying what's on the list.
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Are they the exact same brand as the ones you have you are comparing them with? Same brand and markings?

I would have to say it is time to boycot the V's and possibly the P's. Very few people have had positive reports on them. ESP the Vikings. Somebody at the warehouse(s) is screwing the guys that we talk to over (A,R, J & others). I really believe it is not them, as they are credible people that have been doing this for a long time. It sounds like the cheaper meds are having the most issues.

 
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peanut said:
Are they the exact same brand as the ones you have you are comparing them with? Same brand and markings?

I would have to say it is time to boycot the V's and possibly the P's. Very few people have had positive reports on them. ESP the Vikings. Somebody at the warehouse(s) is screwing the guys that we talk to over (A,R, J & others). I really believe it is not them, as they are credible people that have been doing this for a long time. It sounds like the cheaper meds are having the most issues.
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Yea they are Also I tested them not lick of 0xi was in the percs the 0xi ex where 0xi just weak.....And yes it probly has nothing to do with A I am sure but I am only ordering what's on the menu from now on I have not tried his Vikings.

 
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Hey everybody...Hope you guys survived the holidays!!!  Can anyone comment on the Rockies quality?  If so what brand...Kindsty mentioned the 10 EX's were a lil on the weak side, where earlier in the thread they were said to be good to go? Maybe a tolerance issue? I wasn't sure it they still made these Mexican brand still or if they were an old stash...Any help is always appreciated!!!  Thanks and take care and stay safe...

 
donnyh said:
Mr C,

Pleas post A's response as I am ready to place my first order with him(R informed me he is is out for a month or 2) and I am a little reluctant based on the potency reported in recent posts.

Can't wait until these guys get the good old yellows( which I take daily) back in the pipeline.

Happy Holidays to all.
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I take the yellows regularly as well. But they are impossible to find via alternative sources these days. I did hear back from A and he is working on a fix. I have ZERO doubt that he will make things right. IMHO, he's as honest an operator as there is. I agree with whoever said that this is likely a wholesaler supply issue and not the fault of the vendors we deal with (many of them at least).

 
JackStraw04 said:
Hey everybody...Hope you guys survived the holidays!!!  Can anyone comment on the Rockies quality?  If so what brand...Kindsty mentioned the 10 EX's were a lil on the weak side, where earlier in the thread they were said to be good to go? Maybe a tolerance issue? I wasn't sure it they still made these Mexican brand still or if they were an old stash...Any help is always appreciated!!!  Thanks and take care and stay safe...
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If you stick with the m30s you'll be good to go. Stay away from the K9s! Alex won't even deal with them anymore.

 
Has anyone tried A's 0xic0ntn 10's? I need long acting. My vikings are not cutting it. His prices are realy good.

 
Mr. Crowley said:
I take the yellows regularly as well. But they are impossible to find via alternative sources these days. I did hear back from A and he is working on a fix. I have ZERO doubt that he will make things right. IMHO, he's as honest an operator as there is. I agree with whoever said that this is likely a wholesaler supply issue and not the fault of the vendors we deal with (many of them at least).
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Right it falls back to the wholesaler trying to get one over on ppl.

pokeytoe said:
Has anyone tried A's 0xic0ntn 10's? I need long acting. My vikings are not cutting it. His prices are realy good.
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I have I found them a little weak but they where 0xi tested them.

 
kindsty said:
Right it falls back to the wholesaler trying to get one over on ppl.

I have I found them a little weak but they where 0xi tested them.
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Sorry Kindsty, trying to get what you wrote. Are you saying they were tested and they are the real thing? And if they are weak can I take two of them?
 
pokeytoe said:
Sorry Kindsty, trying to get what you wrote. Are you saying they were tested and they are the real thing? And if they are weak can I take two of them?
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Yes, she tested them and they were positive for oxi. Also, I've tried the OP60's and 80s and they are A+ quality. I simply use a pill cutter I bought at CVS to split them in half or quarters.

 
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pokeytoe said:
Sorry Kindsty, trying to get what you wrote. Are you saying they were tested and they are the real thing? And if they are weak can I take two of them?
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Yes I tested they are the real deal I tested with a test kit I think they where made back in 07s or so tho they just seemed kind of weak to me personally that's just me.

 
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