Anyone ever have Rilmazafone?

I've tried it, have taken a fair amount of it, actually, over the years. I like it--it's like a somewhat more hypnotic and much less myorelaxant @tiv@n. Useful to have around, though I was dismayed to discover yesterday that my main past source no longer stocks generic rilmaz and as a result it's quite pricey now, alas...

There was some talk years back about water solubility and other MoAs--as a prodrug, that likely wouldn't work. Curiously, though, I've noticed that it seems to work slightly sublingually despite this. One fascinating property of rilmaz is that, IIRC, it's not metabolized by the liver so much, rather, the metabolism into the active b3nz0 form takes place in the digestive system/intestinal tract. (I have the paper wherein I learned this stored somewhere, can't remember off the top of my head the title atm) Which implies it absolutely must be taken orally.
 
I've tried it, have taken a fair amount of it, actually, over the years. I like it--it's like a somewhat more hypnotic and much less myorelaxant @tiv@n. Useful to have around, though I was dismayed to discover yesterday that my main past source no longer stocks generic rilmaz and as a result it's quite pricey now, alas...

There was some talk years back about water solubility and other MoAs--as a prodrug, that likely wouldn't work. Curiously, though, I've noticed that it seems to work slightly sublingually despite this. One fascinating property of rilmaz is that, IIRC, it's not metabolized by the liver so much, rather, the metabolism into the active b3nz0 form takes place in the digestive system/intestinal tract. (I have the paper wherein I learned this stored somewhere, can't remember off the top of my head the title atm) Which implies it absolutely must be taken orally.
That’s a good find regarding the manufacturer’s label or whatever source you pulled from. These details can be pretty helpful if you stick with them. You might avoid the oral route if you’ve got a high pain threshold and know a surgical proctologist who can keep secrets!

As for the sublingual method, that’s been my primary experience, actually, but that's mainly based on these Canadian research chemists, often they don’t offer retail sales if it’s not lawful or prone to seizure so I can't get it anymore perseverances. With that, I got some stock when I could and it's probably a good sign regarding its potential for dependency that I still have a modest stash tucked away (on what’s essentially blotter paper) preserved for special occasions, or on whim, I guess. I usually only dip into 1-2 mg when I randomly think of it and usually functional purposes, rather than strictly for anxiety reduction or maintaining my daily benzo levels, per se. At this point, none of them are all that recreational for me, so can't say I'd reach for it for that either.

That said, whether it’s a first- or second-class benzo, or even these whacky RCs, they all seem to operate within a similar timeframe for me - it's time to get benzodiazepines in my blood so I'm reaching for any of them. Rilmaz, though, has sat around with a kind of neutrality in my mind, even if I'm craving something. I think it’s great for winding down in the evening—perhaps before dinner—because it doesn’t completely sedate you. It pairs well with a glass of wine during dinner, and you can still tackle evening chores or prepare for the next day without feeling dulled. It promotes restorative sleep but isn’t a game-changer for sleep disorders. Overall, it’s calming, kind of like the chamomile tea of benzos! It’s a gentle, steady presence without being overpowering, very single minded in effect but never displacing anything else in your noodle to any large degree.

It’s less potent than most benzos, but it carries a more selective, refined effect. Where some benzos can cause euphoria, there’s often an emotional blunting that makes you less aware of the small moments of joy, empathy, or connection that accompany that feeling. You might feel euphoric but detached, missing the poignancy of a moment or the chance to connect meaningfully in a nuanced way with another person or a simple, overlooked thing or thought, ya know?. This effect, while manageable, isn’t always ideal when it's across the spectrum of emotions day in and day out for years. Rilmaz, on the other hand, doesn’t induce euphoria or blunt harsh anxiety, really, but it evens out emotional awareness and reduced saliency without eliminating or blurring its lines; honestly, it gives some natural, nuanced euthymia. You’re less emotionally blunted and more yourself but calm enough to handle your internal states and , less overall cognitive deceleration means greater general mental clarity is preserved compared to other benzos.

For me, it’s nice to have my anxiety reduced without losing touch with my real moods and mental states. There’s enough CNS deceleration that I can maintian my awareness and top down thinking, better organize my thoughts, and keep energy reserved to use some executive functioning that may other be under-fueled over a stressful day and typically leaves me prone to overwhelm if triggered later in the evening which just lets loose the mind's flooding and reactivity, extreme lability, and an exhausting rant I can't stop myself from speaking aloud until I'm spent. (I have chronic effects from a brain injury). It’s also helpful if you need to slow down physical symptoms that come with some version of a dysautonomia or restlessness without becoming completely sedentary because it does release anxious energy to some extent so it reduces or prevents that accumulation that can begin bouncing around in your body and mind when there’s no natural way to discharge it.

That said, it just can't match the potency that other benzos offer in this regard, for better or worse. Its not reliable to clobber you the same way and defeat a panic, perseverances, or put you down and sedate you if you really need to just turn down the nozzle on the faucet of thoughts and restless energy. in this way, it's probably somewhat replaceable by a light dose of something like Ativan or pyrazolam, maybe. It's unique for sure though.

To me, it’s worth having on hand, and surprisingly is still on hand, so likely not too liable to induce dependency or be overly habit forming relative to the other cast of characters here. Thanks for reminding me about it, actually!
 
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That’s a good find regarding the manufacturer’s label or whatever source you pulled from. These details can be pretty helpful if you stick with them. You might avoid the oral route if you’ve got a high pain threshold and know a surgical proctologist who can keep secrets!

As for the sublingual method, that’s been my primary experience, actually, but that's mainly based on these Canadian research chemists, often they don’t offer retail sales if it’s not lawful or prone to seizure so I can't get it anymore perseverances. With that, I got some stock when I could and it's probably a good sign regarding its potential for dependency that I still have a modest stash tucked away (on what’s essentially blotter paper) preserved for special occasions, or on whim, I guess. I usually only dip into 1-2 mg when I randomly think of it and usually functional purposes, rather than strictly for anxiety reduction or maintaining my daily benzo levels, per se. At this point, none of them are all that recreational for me, so can't say I'd reach for it for that either.

That said, whether it’s a first- or second-class benzo, or even these whacky RCs, they all seem to operate within a similar timeframe for me - it's time to get benzodiazepines in my blood so I'm reaching for any of them. Rilmaz, though, has sat around with a kind of neutrality in my mind, even if I'm craving something. I think it’s great for winding down in the evening—perhaps before dinner—because it doesn’t completely sedate you. It pairs well with a glass of wine during dinner, and you can still tackle evening chores or prepare for the next day without feeling dulled. It promotes restorative sleep but isn’t a game-changer for sleep disorders. Overall, it’s calming, kind of like the chamomile tea of benzos! It’s a gentle, steady presence without being overpowering, very single minded in effect but never displacing anything else in your noodle to any large degree.

It’s less potent than most benzos, but it carries a more selective, refined effect. Where some benzos can cause euphoria, there’s often an emotional blunting that makes you less aware of the small moments of joy, empathy, or connection that accompany that feeling. You might feel euphoric but detached, missing the poignancy of a moment or the chance to connect meaningfully in a nuanced way with another person or a simple, overlooked thing or thought, ya know?. This effect, while manageable, isn’t always ideal when it's across the spectrum of emotions day in and day out for years. Rilmaz, on the other hand, doesn’t induce euphoria or blunt harsh anxiety, really, but it evens out emotional awareness and reduced saliency without eliminating or blurring its lines; honestly, it gives some natural, nuanced euthymia. You’re less emotionally blunted and more yourself but calm enough to handle your internal states and , less overall cognitive deceleration means greater general mental clarity is preserved compared to other benzos.

For me, it’s nice to have my anxiety reduced without losing touch with my real moods and mental states. There’s enough CNS deceleration that I can maintian my awareness and top down thinking, better organize my thoughts, and keep energy reserved to use some executive functioning that may other be under-fueled over a stressful day and typically leaves me prone to overwhelm if triggered later in the evening which just lets loose the mind's flooding and reactivity, extreme lability, and an exhausting rant I can't stop myself from speaking aloud until I'm spent. (I have chronic effects from a brain injury). It’s also helpful if you need to slow down physical symptoms that come with some version of a dysautonomia or restlessness without becoming completely sedentary because it does release anxious energy to some extent so it reduces or prevents that accumulation that can begin bouncing around in your body and mind when there’s no natural way to discharge it.

That said, it just can't match the potency that other benzos offer in this regard, for better or worse. Its not reliable to clobber you the same way and defeat a panic, perseverances, or put you down and sedate you if you really need to just turn down the nozzle on the faucet of thoughts and restless energy. in this way, it's probably somewhat replaceable by a light dose of something like Ativan or pyrazolam, maybe. It's unique for sure though.

To me, it’s worth having on hand, and surprisingly is still on hand, so likely not too liable to induce dependency or be overly habit forming relative to the other cast of characters here. Thanks for reminding me about it, actually!
 
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