Anyone have experience with 0x3c0d0n3 and morphsulphate

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Im on ox3 ive read that as potency goes ox3 is 2x stronger than m0rphin3.

20x stronger than coedine

If i take 20x the amount of coedine i dont ever get close to the equivilent amount of ox3.

Anyone have the same issue and know if m0rphine can give you the same 0x3 buzz?

 
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Mushy said:
Im on ox3 ive read that as potency goes ox3 is 2x stronger than m0rphin3.

20x stronger than coedine

If i take 20x the amount of coedine i dont ever get close to the equivilent amount of ox3.

Anyone have the same issue and know if m0rphine can give you the same 0x3 buzz?
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The thing with cod3in3 phosphate is your body can onlt process 300mg every 24 hours. So if you take more you're wasting your medicine.

Dhc is different you can keep popping them as much as you want and keep getting higher. 

I can't say if you're right or wrong about the other stuff because im not 100% On those

 
Heres a handy chart for reference.  Remember that the equivalence people mention is just for analgesic power.  It DOES NOT mean it will feel the same at all. Each drug acts differently and is metabolized differently.  And these factors change depending on ROA, biochemistry (for instance some people produce less of the liver enzyme necessary to convert codeine which is inactive into morphine and other metabolites) as well as what other medications or potentiators (specifically ones affecting certain liver enzymes)  you may be taking.   For HR it is always recommend to titrate a new substance instead of following charts, but the charts are definitely helpful, specifically for people in pain.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equianalgesic

 
Another user friendly easier to use chart where you enter exactly what you’re trying to figure out is the “Oregon Opioid Conversion Chart”.

 
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Many take up to 480mg but yes no effects past that

Conceited said:
@Mushy

The thing with cod3in3 phosphate is your body can onlt process 300mg every 24 hours. So if you take more you're wasting your medicine.

Dhc is different you can keep popping them as much as you want and keep getting higher. 

I can't say if you're right or wrong about the other stuff because im not 100% On those
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@SpriteHamster suppose it's different horses for  different courses.My rule of thumbe was don't do more tham 10x 30mg because the effect never increased. Just run out of stuff quicker

 
@DoomKitty Thank you. I wish I could find out if there is an enzyme or genome (sp?) that could account for getting virtually NO euphoria/energy from oxsee - the standard not continuous type OR more feen. Straight from MD, or provider, 5mg 10 mg or half of a 30 all equal great pain relief but none of that “awesome” feeling that only hyde row or even deeach see can do.  Can’t find any research on that one! One of my Bio relatives is same way - we’d gladly trade 2  perkos for  1  hydies anytime!!! 

 
Nitetrain said:
Another user friendly easier to use chart where you enter exactly what you’re trying to figure out is the “Oregon Opioid Conversion Chart”.
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While this is accurate for anaglegic effects each drug is unique and I enjoy Codeine quite a lot compared to hydro but I never take Codeine without Prometh or Benadryl or maybe Hydroxyzine one day.

 
@SpriteHamster  Thank you for posting! Even a kids dose of Benadryl knocks me out longer than 10 mg Valerie...Tried several different times over the past 20 years and it’s always the same LOLI’ll have to look into the one you mentioned starting with an H (obviously not High Drow, the other H) :)  

 
@Trudy L Heres a good article about the different enzymes and such with a chart that shows different 0pis and the necessary enzymes for metabolism.  It also talks about how people genetically have more or less of enzymes for metabolism and/or take meds that greatly alter metabolism of 0pis.  Anyways, thought it might be an interesting read for you!!

Metabolism Article

 
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@Mushy

Dee H See  is so interesting..haven't had it in a while.  I can use it (once in a while, maybe once every 2 months)  in conjuntion with Modaf. doses (not extreme, just standard!) to stay awake all night AND still feel rested (until I hit about hour 28 of being awake!)  (Not for driving or working; just when I have a weekend or something to do personal and house chores)  It's almost as if I'm still getting "REM" type mental release just from the Dee Ayce Sea hypnotic effect so I don't feel annoyed and irritable the next day.  I love the way the brain feels like it's still awake when sleeping...
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