BDO

For anyone looking to research G.. do not buy GVL Gamma Valerolactone. You want to get GBL which can be consumed or converted to GHB easily or BDO which the consensus seems that it is a little dirtier but lasts much longer and hits less hard. GBL hits harder than GHB.
I’m so confused I thought this G I kept hearing was old school Jesse and Walt library. Thanks for clearing it up. Heard GHB making comeback but could not figure why so I thought for sure they mean good old clear /blue books from Jesse and Walt…. Who knew
 
Dude you won’t find anything from UD Amazon - but eyelash glue remover, wheel cleaner, some inks and solvents. I’ve searched all over and in the US the only reliable GBL is someone with a drum left from pre-ban or who gets someone to agree to ship it. BDO is more industrially common and though consumer products aren’t gonna have it in an easy to find place, my go to is @CalFresh here for pure industrial BDO that has zero additives or extras. Just the good stuff. You can make GBL from there, but I prefer to just make the GHB straight organic synthesis from the reliable laboratory in my sexy body;)

Seriously, can’t recommend BDO from the right place enough. @CalFresh has it for cheap. Skip the Amazon search but do update if you find it
@LatsDoodis That GHB Factory is indeed quite sexy, my Doodis!
 
Agree on the above regarding GVL, GBL, and BDO. However, BDO is the most advantageous in my opinion for several reasons:

1. It’s more available and less controlled, making it more accessible and more likely authentic and affordable; and,
2. It can be easily converted at home to GBL. Or, to GHB directly using enzymes already in the body (for industrial applications, of course), so it’s sorta fungible in this way; and,
3) I find It has a strong effect and lasts slightly longer comparatively. This duration can be adjusted by food intake, which affects onset and peak time, offering some discretion. (Be cautious with alcohol as it offers an extended toxic exposure and increases risks by peaking B.A.C. first, then quickly freeing enzymes that turn next to the BDO metabolism, which can be hard for people with less experience.)
4. “Plus…It’s a shanty…”


BDO is not inherently “dirtier”, but some products aren’t pure and that’s not always obvious. This is one common reason why reporting varies. There’s also genetic and circumstantial/pharmacodynamic factors that affect the enzymes necessary to rapidly metabolize it. If you have them and it goes through you without much holdup- it’s not been shown to even have the same feared toxic metabolite that alcohol does, which is surprising and a gift.

The dose is extremely limiting for all these “G” substances, with precise amounts and narrow windows of range for use before trouble. That said, only one BDO overdose death without any other substances has ever been recorded, although plenty of Emergency visits occur, mostly for monitoring.

I find BDO, and most good things in my life after educating myself on this fine website. … one vendor one fine website I know (no relation) is worth a try if you’re looking. I guess just look around, - actually, screw it, until I’m shown otherwise it’s hands down @CalFresh - but if anyone else has good experiences please share, too!
 
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Agree on the above regarding GVL, GBL, and BDO. However, BDO is the most advantageous in my opinion for several reasons:

1. It’s more available and less controlled, making it more accessible and more likely authentic and affordable; and,
2. It can be easily converted at home to GBL. Or, to GHB directly using enzymes already in the body (for industrial applications, of course), so it’s sorta fungible in this way; and,
3) I find It has a strong effect and lasts slightly longer comparatively. This duration can be adjusted by food intake, which affects onset and peak time, offering some discretion. (Be cautious with alcohol as it offers an extended toxic exposure and increases risks by peaking B.A.C. first, then quickly freeing enzymes that turn next to the BDO metabolism, which can be hard for people with less experience.)
4. “Plus…It’s a shanty…”


BDO is not inherently “dirtier”, but some products aren’t pure and that’s not always obvious. This is one common reason why reporting varies. There’s also genetic and circumstantial/pharmacodynamic factors that affect the enzymes necessary to rapidly metabolize it. If you have them and it goes through you without much holdup- it’s not been shown to even have the same feared toxic metabolite that alcohol does, which is surprising and a gift.

The dose is extremely limiting for all these “G” substances, with precise amounts and narrow windows of range for use before trouble. That said, only one BDO overdose death without any other substances has ever been recorded, although plenty of Emergency visits occur, mostly for monitoring.

I find BDO, and most good things in my life after educating myself on this fine website. … one vendor one fine website I know (no relation) is worth a try if you’re looking. I guess just look around, - actually, screw it, until I’m shown otherwise it’s hands down @CalFresh - but if anyone else has good experiences please share, too!
Just got some bdo from cal to try out for the first time, but am a little hesitant because of the reports of nausea I keep hearing about. Do you think that is generally due to impurities?
Busy life and I would be pretty bummed if I wasted a few hours of chill time because I made myself sick, yknow?
Any tips to prevent the nausea? Also, good starting dose for 140 lb person?
 
Does anyone have some non-US domestic or non-Amazon US (as other countries Amazons don’t stock it) recommendations for good pure BDO?
 
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