bu?

Sounds like toxic garbage to me.  What kind of logic is there to be had in not revealing the chemical name?  Of 4-MMC was only sold as meph or mephedrone and nobody knew the chemical structure at one point law enforcement would test it and find out what it is and ban that specific substance.  The same applies to other slang names such as "flakka".

The only reason I can see to really hide the chemical name is because it's obviously very toxic or completely inactive.

 
@Just4Research  Seeing as not a single vendor cared that someone posted what could be the chemical name/structure I'm going to assume that what they said was the reason was a lie and basically NO ONE EVEN KNOWS WHAT IT IS THEY ARE SELLING.   I mean the idea that law enforcement won't quickly find out the chemical structure and ban it is already silly, but if they truly believed that then at least one of the vendors would have asked for the posts to be taken down for the sake of opsec or whatever.  No surprise that none of them did.  Or yes perhaps they knew what it was and that it sucked, though plenty of outfits sell stuff that everyone knows sucks and is toxic.  I mean I'm sure the lab knows its trash, but not sure the vendors do.  Sadly, spreading the idea that this chem is like a mash up of 3-mmc and NEP will likely do more harm than good as people who like stims seem to love those ones.   Also agree, from all reports BU is very cardio and neuro-toxic. 

 
Officially identified as Dimethylpentalone.  Here's the article: BU.  Expect name change ASAP.

 
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