Not sure i have this in the correct place. How similar are these 2 tablets? If I'm really used to codeine but suddenly switch to tramadol will my body give out? Or are they quite similar in mechanism?
Personally I don't compare the 2, ever. Codeine makes me sleepy, relaxed, slightly euphoric and nauseous (barely to bother). Tramadol makes my head feel, numb? Or cloudy, slightly euphoric and a bit anxious. But you probably won't feel any withdraws from codeine if you take Tramadol.
Not sure i have this in the correct place. How similar are these 2 tablets? If I'm really used to codeine but suddenly switch to tramadol will my body give out? Or are they quite similar in mechanism?
They are similar, although whereas Codeine is a true opioid, Tramadol is a synthetic opioid... But they still effect the same receptors in the brain... However, Tramadol does inhibit the reputable of serotonin and norepinephrine, so it's kind of like adding an antidepressant to the mix?.. And that's the side of Tramadol that doesn't agree with everyone? It also has a much longer half life, due to it's SNRI properties...
Some people do find this helpful, as it definitely has certain mood lifting qualities, and slightly longer analgesic effects? However, I think the latter is due to the parallel SNRI properties that are also occurring... Resulting in an almost placebo like effect, of your slightly elevated mood, masking the propensity to feel your pain?
However, if you have the choice and need to be on either long term, then I'd personally stick with Codeine... You will almost certainly develop a tolerance and dependence for either, that goes without saying... But ask almost anyone which one they'd rather withdraw from and they'd definitely choose Codeine?! Tramadol withdrawals are a real motherfucker!! It's like opiate & antidepressant withdrawal, both at the same time... Quite simply, it's fucking horrible!! Give me a good old Codeine withdrawal any day ; )
Interesting info @Phrenicz, I didn't know that about Tramadol. That may explain why I've never liked it! I tend to get terrible insomnia when I take it, regardless of time taken during the day. I could take it at noon, but as soon as I try to go to bed I have extremely vivid, almost waking dreams. Kind of like daydreaming, but half asleep, and unable to fall completely asleep. It's really not pleasant at all. I recently had a doc try to prescribe Trams and I told him about this, so he prescribed codeine instead. They didn't do much for the pain, maybe a little better than acetaminophen and ibuprofen alone, but not much. No weird side effects though.
@xenxra:
@WTF7218 it may as well be that way with how little effort some of the people on here make to find information that's exactly where you would expect it to be.
@ontovzik:
When I had long term shingles, lasting two months. All he could give me was a 10 day supply of dilaudid. He looked at the ground while we were talking about it. I could tell he was ashamed but it was the legislature and the governor that tied his hands. He was very upset that non-medical political people, the media, and the scared public were controlling how he treated his patients. Someday those people will need meds and a hospital bed and they will be gone.
@ontovzik:
I had a great doctor, he had the true gift of a healer and he stayed on top of all the science. He straight up told me that for many people opiods work for managing short and long term pain.
@WTF7218:
@xenxra 😆😂. Yes, but only a few brave souls will ever find the number. You must first order a Dirty Shirley from the bartender. Then you must discreetly take the cocktail napkin from under your drink and unfold it. There you will find the map to the location of the phone number, and clues to decipher the code that it is written in.
@xenxra:
he left his phone number scribbled in a stall at the pub three blocks down
N@NYStateofMind:
@Alkazar I would try one of those easy online ones .. reddit gives useful info about that
@Alkazar:
@NYStateofMind I dont really have a history of abusing things, my docotr is just really stingy. I am thinking of switching.
N@NYStateofMind:
I didnt really tell him but he knew I needed a new script since my dr went to jail
N@NYStateofMind:
@xenxra I was on Adderall since 15 years ago so my dr prescribed that w no problems and then when I lost my best friend my doctor rxed the valiums but
@xenxra:
@NYStateofMind my doctor's have always been pretty open minded if i can actually come in and explain the pharmacological action of the drugs im seeking instead of just telling them why i think i should be prescribed. the only time it didn't work out for me is when i was trying pharmaceuticals for depression ten years ago and suggested they let me try testosterone instead (turns out i was hypogonadal so they made a mistake denying my request at face value)
T@Testisthebest:
Even down here in Florida when the pill mill docs all switched over to Suboxone and/or retired you can still find some pretty liberal docs but you gotta know what to look for. Mine does "pain management, detox, anxiety,etc. And no insurance. My doc writes me 60 5mg Valium, 14 2mg Xanax and asked if I had ever tried adderal to get more focus at work as I told him I run my own business.
N@NYStateofMind:
@Alkazar do they know your history? Like I dont tell my doctor anything about myself except what they need to know,...I was able to get my dr to rx the highest dose of adderall along with valiums ..... if they dont know your history or there is no history I would just come out and ask what is the reason for their mistreatment.... they have no problem billing your insurance or taking a payment for the visit