Convincing a doc to script benzos?

[Halif]

he told us that in American med schools, doctors are not trained in weaning patients off them

Literal insanity.

Considering how commonly prescribed benzos are, and the serious consequences involved in coming off them too quickly (or even cold turkey), I find it insane that GPs so often seem to lack knowledge and compassion in that area.

Many times before on this forum, I've mentioned my sick and twisted (not beautiful) fantasy that all doctors-in-training are required to go through a minor benzo rebound/withdrawal. Yeah, it's unethical and dangerous and just a fantasy of sorts, but there's no substitute for actual lived experience and I think there should be a reduction in these cases of casual cruelty.

 

[vision conque]

Literal insanity.

Considering how commonly prescribed benzos are, and the serious consequences involved in coming off them too quickly (or even cold turkey), I find it insane that GPs so often seem to lack knowledge and compassion in that area.

Many times before on this forum, I've mentioned my sick and twisted (not beautiful) fantasy that all doctors-in-training are required to go through a minor benzo rebound/withdrawal. Yeah, it's unethical and dangerous and just a fantasy of sorts, but there's no substitute for actual lived experience and I think there should be a reduction in these cases of casual cruelty.

As you said man, it would never happen, however it would be an excellent idea.

In my opinion all substances should be readily available to those who want them...prohibition causes far more harm than the substances themselves.

A bit off topic but just for something interesting...in the land down under if someone wants to work for guide dogs or blind citizens, at least if they want to work as an o&m/orientation amd mobility trainer, it is a requirment that they have to spend a few days at the main training centre living under blindfold.
There is no better way to understand what it's like to be totally blind than to spend a few days living with zero sight.

 

[Heman]

As you said man, it would never happen, however it would be an excellent idea.

In my opinion all substances should be readily available to those who want them...prohibition causes far more harm than the substances themselves.

A bit off topic but just for something interesting...in the land down under if someone wants to work for guide dogs or blind citizens, at least if they want to work as an o&m/orientation amd mobility trainer, it is a requirment that they have to spend a few days at the main training centre living under blindfold.
There is no better way to understand what it's like to be totally blind than to spend a few days living with zero sight.

Good point, you can really only appreciate what is in your experience. Pity it's not a requirement for more positions of responsibility.

 

[pureresearch]

If it's not been mentioned, and you're serious about this. The first step is see your PCP, and talk it through with them. Ask for a referral to a good psychiatrist and then talk to he/she about anxiety symptoms. Be honest about how you have constant anxiety and have tried: busprione, hydroxizine, propranolol, etc. (Meds that help anxiety that aren't benzos) and that you have taken xyz years ago and it helped. Any good psych will provide a decent script of Clonazepam. This is a good safe long acting option that will be the first go to.

Like others said, the short acting benzos will be a go to for a short time period, but don't expect year supplies of xanax anymore. The rules about that have gotten stricter, and any younger provider will be more cautious because training now days push against prescribing short acting benzos for more than 3 months max. BUT, if you can find an old school doc then you're good.

Old school doc - any PCP that is a good ol boy. My clinic has a partner doc who still scripts fynt patches, and benzos loosly. It really just depends on who you can find. Do your research about docs in your area. A lot of info is online.

But the psych path is a sure way to get what you need for long term care.

 

[frozenSR17]

if you are still seeking a way around pre,-employment screens, know that some types of this med class yield different metabolites. i was RX kaypins for years and never once tested positive, even when I was on probation. just because the immunoassay they test for is looking for the metabolites from Valium, Xanax, some others.

but it also depends on the TYPE of test. test sent to a lab? big trouble. they'll find it, depending on their reference list. Immunoassay test done at labc0rp? easier to squeak by.

some bnz RCs will get you by as well. either because they are uncommon in your country, not tested for (like эtiz, I've heard a good deal of anecdotes that it can get you by an immunoassay), or something like cl@m that is both highly potent by weight AND has a shorter half life.

Cl@m is hard to find. Maybe a new RC that's an analogue will be available in a few years. But due to its potency being around min 150 mcg, its metabolites got diluted right out of your system fast.

I'm in a similar boat rn. Formerly had a script, screwed up a screen I expected to be urine that was changed to oral swab, had to leave behind my doc and years of medical treatment history to try and start anew with a new physician. the institutional protection having a script affordable you is incredibly valuable. especially if you are subject to random screenings at work

 

[shadow38]

Some peoples livers don't metabolize Klonopin fully that's why some people don't pop for it on drug tests by the way

 

[IreneSparkle]

Your genes, liver and other meds all factor in.