Getting off subs?

[𝔹𝕦𝕓𝕓𝕝𝕖§]

Hi,

Ok just wondering, has anyone found any RC that has helped them get off of subs with minimal withdrawals?

 

[BobbyDigi33]

Not really an RC, but I used 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) and some good MIT extracts to help me come off of subs with minimal withdrawls. I've read that SR-1078 is a great tool to use for this as well, but I have no personal experience with it.

 

[𝔹𝕦𝕓𝕓𝕝𝕖§]

Not really an RC, but I used 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) and some good MIT extracts to help me come off of subs with minimal withdrawls. I've read that SR-1078 is a great tool to use for this as well, but I have no personal experience with it.

Thank you! What is 7-OH? And do you know where to get it?

 

[BobbyDigi33]

Thank you! What is 7-OH? And do you know where to get it?

It's an advanced Kratom alkaloid that you can get at most vape shops, or even better is a website called wonderland gardens.

 

[LW815]

I used /\/\£T|-|, which I personally wouldn’t recommend. While it did help a lot more than I initially thought it would, it also amplified some of the W/D symptoms. Aka shitting my brains out, worse than ever. And the RLS at night had me flailing around in bed, when I was actually able to fall asleep anyway, like I was possessed by a(very amped up) demon. I was beating the shit out of my girl almost nightly(my crazy sleep flailing, not actually beating her) to the point where she was like “you’re gonna have to ride this one out on the couch dude”

I always hated this as a d(r)vg, it was always just way too intense but at the time really all I could manage to get ahold of, and I wanted off the Su(b)way. And due to an obvious lack of control, I ended up just changing my D0C from one to another and I’ve been on since. But ever since discovering this board, I’ve also been a daily user of 0D$-Empty. But also thanks to this board, which I originally was using to find more quality reading material because the local authors turned to straight shit, I’m slowly moving away from it(though not the 0D$, love this shit lol).

Sorry for not answering your question in a helpful way. I know there’s something that’s like EssAre-140xx that’s supposedly great for WD. Hard to get ahold of though, but I did see one or two recently list it. Gonna have to do the legwork on your own for that, though.

 

[bigblueallda]

I don't see how people can take kratom so much. It does keep wd's at bay but it has always felt really dirty to me and I often get this weird pain in my upper abdomen when I have taken it in the past. The last few times I did try it gave me blurry vision and sort of eye wobbles and then a headache. 7OH gave me the same blurry vision and dirty feeling.

 

[LW815]

I don't see how people can take kratom so much. It does keep wd's at bay but it has always felt really dirty to me and I often get this weird pain in my upper abdomen when I have taken it in the past. The last few times I did try it gave me blurry vision and sort of eye wobbles and then a headache. 7OH gave me the same blurry vision and dirty feeling.

Yeah kratom affected me in some pretty odd/bad ways as well. Years ago, like 5-7, I had recently quit my upper£rs habit(mostly c0ke and @ddies) and was using white vein kratom to supplement my lack of go-juice. I’d used kratom here and there before this and never really had a bad experience, just some odd side effects like you mentioned. But when I started taking white vein daily it did some bad shit to my heart - I’m assuming the 12+ years(at the time) of $t1m and alcohol abuse played a significant role, but up until the day I quit(not alcohol) I never had an issue like this. I was at work and all of a sudden my chest got extremely tight/heavy feeling, I was having trouble breathing and my heart rate went through the roof. I could feel it in a horribly terrifying way, and could audibly hear it. Only for a few seconds though because I collapsed shortly after. I didn’t have a heart attack, and the doctors didn’t know wtf happened to me. I mentioned my previous use so kinda just got written off.

I didn’t correlate it to the kratom until a few weeks of continuing to use it and it continuing to happen semi-regularly. After about the 5-6th time I came to the conclusion it must be the kratom, quit using it, and it never happened again.

I’ve never heard of anybody else have effects like this from it though, and while I’m sure my heart isn’t great if you read my above post you can see what I’ve been doing since, and even that hasn’t had that type of effect on my heart. It doesn’t really make sense but it is definitely something I won’t use anymore

 

[scarred14]

Hi,

Ok just wondering, has anyone found any RC that has helped them get off of subs with minimal withdrawals?

there is a miracle chem, i know that people say that often but in this case its true that lowers your op10d tolerance. one of the guys mentioned it above (ess R - ####)

its been out of production for some reason and theres rumiors it will be back in a week or two.

otherwise, theres no easy way to do this. first of all, you have to get down to a very low dose of $ub0x first. like (0.2mg) ideally. so on a 8 mg this would be a hardly visible amount. use math and determine the size of the piece needed and cut it with a razor knife.

thats the easy part, its suprisingly easy to lower your dosage while on $ub.

the hard part is jumping off and staying off. clonidine, g4b4pent1n are in my opinioon mandatory to take while doing this part. c, g and some krat0m (dont overdo it on the krat0m or 7-0h) can turn with drawals from a week of laying in bed to a week of feeling crappy but able to go to work, function to do what you gotta do. then you would slowly wean off of these things. g4b4 and krat can have their own WDs as well so be careful.

lastly, accept that long term use of $ub or similiar things has negatively impacted your brain, and juist like a bodybuilder trains his arms, you will have to train your brain so to speak. there will be probably a year of PAWS - google this - during this time you will be susecptible to relapse or use of other chems/d rugz. you will have to hold strong and realize, in the long run $ub is hurting you and it is not a helpful medicine in my opinion. most people would be far better off to just cold turkey or use something else to get off of whatever led them to $ub

there is ways to beat this, there really is. and in the next year or few years i think maybe there will be some new things that come around that may shake up the game.

i wish you good luck, i feel your pain. your life free of this burden is worth it - you will have to go thru some bad to get to some really good, like you will get your hormones and receptors back to normal eventually after some care.

 

[xenxra]

there is a miracle chem, i know that people say that often but in this case its true that lowers your op10d tolerance. one of the guys mentioned it above (ess R - ####)

its been out of production for some reason and theres rumiors it will be back in a week or two.

one of the main suppliers of this mag recently listed a new SR variant (14986)

 

[scarred14]

one of the main suppliers of this mag recently listed a new SR variant (14986)

droop me a hint or shoot adm? im willing to overpay, if it is 100% legit. i would be super appreciative and repay the favor in whatever way i can!

 

[𝔹𝕦𝕓𝕓𝕝𝕖§]

droop me a hint or shoot adm? im willing to overpay, if it is 100% legit. i would be super appreciative and repay the favor in whatever way i can!

I found it in the approved research chemical vendors section. So how is supposed to work. I just switch over to it? Is it going to be just another drug I'm going to have to use something else to get off of later? I don't want that. I only take subways for pain but it's not really working anyway so I just wait to get off. I have heard of just getting one shot of sublucade has helped people quit completely with no WDs. I may just go that route.

 

[xenxra]

So how is supposed to work. I just switch over to it?

i believe you're supposed to switch to it similar to kratom.

this paper illustrates that sr-17018 suppresses the withdrawal symptoms of opioids (at least, morphine, in this instance) while also speeding up the recovery of tolerance to put it in layman terms

based on this paper, you could make the assumption that sr-14986 functions in a similar manner at an increased potency, thus i would advise anyone trying this to start at a lower dose than provided by any pre-existing dosage guidelines for 17018. how much lower? i'm not in a place to say - i don't specialize in pharmacokinetics.

 

[Testisthebest]

Sublocade is the absolute way to go. It’s takes so long to get out of your system and it
comes out super slow. Some people piss positive for it still for 2-3 months after a 100mg dose, which is the lowest. Tons of people on Reddit have gotten off it using sublocade. My insurance pays for it and it’s only $60 and $5 for my office visit.

 

[scarred14]

Sublocade is the absolute way to go. It’s takes so long to get out of your system and it
comes out super slow. Some people piss positive for it still for 2-3 months after a 100mg dose, which is the lowest. Tons of people on Reddit have gotten off it using sublocade. My insurance pays for it and it’s only $60 and $5 for my office visit.

so you got the one shot and that was it and you are now off 100%? howd that go

 

[Testisthebest]

so you got the one shot and that was it and you are now off 100%? howd that go

I’m not off. I’m on maintenance on 100mg. They generally start you on 300 mg as your first shot and then your second shot is 100 and then from there decide if you want to stay on maintenance or if you want to space the shots out like instead of doing a shot every 30 days you could do one every 45 days then do another shot after 60 days.

The benefit to it is because a lot of it is mental. You don’t know when it’s actually fully left your body. So your mind is like not putting you through nearly as much fear of stopping because you don’t know exactly when you’re stopping . They say the shot last for 30 days but the pharmaceutical company just says that because they want to get as much money as possible but just for example, I had an appointment that just so happened to fall on the day before New Year’s and my doctor was off on New Year’s so I had to wait an additional week and I didn’t even notice a difference. There’s a whole sub Reddit about sublocade. Hundreds of people have gotten off Suboxone using it.

 

[Muscle91]

Yeah kratom affected me in some pretty odd/bad ways as well. Years ago, like 5-7, I had recently quit my upper£rs habit(mostly c0ke and @ddies) and was using white vein kratom to supplement my lack of go-juice. I’d used kratom here and there before this and never really had a bad experience, just some odd side effects like you mentioned. But when I started taking white vein daily it did some bad shit to my heart - I’m assuming the 12+ years(at the time) of $t1m and alcohol abuse played a significant role, but up until the day I quit(not alcohol) I never had an issue like this. I was at work and all of a sudden my chest got extremely tight/heavy feeling, I was having trouble breathing and my heart rate went through the roof. I could feel it in a horribly terrifying way, and could audibly hear it. Only for a few seconds though because I collapsed shortly after. I didn’t have a heart attack, and the doctors didn’t know wtf happened to me. I mentioned my previous use so kinda just got written off.

I didn’t correlate it to the kratom until a few weeks of continuing to use it and it continuing to happen semi-regularly. After about the 5-6th time I came to the conclusion it must be the kratom, quit using it, and it never happened again.

I’ve never heard of anybody else have effects like this from it though, and while I’m sure my heart isn’t great if you read my above post you can see what I’ve been doing since, and even that hasn’t had that type of effect on my heart. It doesn’t really make sense but it is definitely something I won’t use anymore

I actually had the same issue recently with Heart racing out of nowhere and tightness in my chest while relaxing in a chair. Went to the ER they did bloodwork and an EKG scan i believe and they didnt see any issue other than high blood pressure. I was also drinking C4 Energy drinks at the time and using Zyn nicotine pouches heavily. The only other thing i can think of is im a heavy kratom user. Was using the bottled extract shots like 3 a day at the time. The Episode scared me enough to cut out the energy drinks and nicotine pouches immediately. This was about a month ago. Im currently trying to quit Kratom for health reasons. I have quit kratom before in the past and remember feeling fatique/tired for a week or so then but recently when i tried to stop kratom a couple of weeks ago after about 24 hours i started experiencing some WD symptons like Runny Nose, Zero energy, joint aches, and upset stomach. I started back and Im in the process of trying to stop kratom again. Any advice on chemicals/peptides/supplements to take and/or things to do to help kratom WD and be done for good?

 

[Johnthevirgo]

I used /\/\£T|-|, which I personally wouldn’t recommend. While it did help a lot more than I initially thought it would, it also amplified some of the W/D symptoms. Aka shitting my brains out, worse than ever. And the RLS at night had me flailing around in bed, when I was actually able to fall asleep anyway, like I was possessed by a(very amped up) demon. I was beating the shit out of my girl almost nightly(my crazy sleep flailing, not actually beating her) to the point where she was like “you’re gonna have to ride this one out on the couch dude”

I always hated this as a d(r)vg, it was always just way too intense but at the time really all I could manage to get ahold of, and I wanted off the Su(b)way. And due to an obvious lack of control, I ended up just changing my D0C from one to another and I’ve been on since. But ever since discovering this board, I’ve also been a daily user of 0D$-Empty. But also thanks to this board, which I originally was using to find more quality reading material because the local authors turned to straight shit, I’m slowly moving away from it(though not the 0D$, love this shit lol).

Sorry for not answering your question in a helpful way. I know there’s something that’s like EssAre-140xx that’s supposedly great for WD. Hard to get ahold of though, but I did see one or two recently list it. Gonna have to do the legwork on your own for that, though.

I did it the same way like 2 1/2 years ago after being on it for 17 years. I agree m3th is not the best and crests a host of other problems but in the end I wanted the fuck off and that’s all I had time to do at the time. I used Kratom with magical success with the fucking crazy intense RLS which was by far the worst part of it and didn’t start to decrease for 6 to 9 months and that’s using Kratom. I never got that into kratom and as my RLS subsided so did amount and frequency of Kratom. I stlll get an occasional RLS episode but nothing like those first six months. Strange I had tried to quit before and had kicked heroin many times in late 90”s early 2000’s and always got the whole host of shitty withdraws but always felt somewhat human and normal in 2 weeks. I don’t know if it was I was on it for so long or what but my main or really only horrible prolonged withdrawal was Restlesd leg syndrome. Peace Brother JTV69

 

[Johnthevirgo]

I did it the same way like 2 1/2 years ago after being on it for 17 years. I agree meth is not the best and crests a host of other problems but in the end I wanted the fuck off and that’s all I had time to do at the time. I used Kratom with magical success with the fucking crazy intense RLS which was by far the worst part of it and didn’t start to decrease for 6 to 9 months and that’s using Kratom. I never got that into kratom and as my RLS subsided so did amount and frequency of Kratom. I stlll get an occasional RLS episode but nothing like those first six months. Strange I had tried to quit before and had kicked heroin many times in late 90”s early 2000’s and always got the whole host of shitty withdraws but always felt somewhat human and normal in 2 weeks. I don’t know if it was I was on it for so long or what but my main or really only horrible prolonged withdrawal was Restlesd leg syndrome. Peace Brother JTV69

Marginal success not at all magical!