How hard is it to get your pm doctor to prescribe hldr0c0d0ne?

@ratso5I think they are about equal in strength or possibly slightly stronger. My brother gets t4 prescribed from his doctor and he went a way for a while, he came back for a visit and to see his doctor to get new scripts, but had run out of his T4s and hadn't taken any for a while, so his tolerance was low, and when he came back I gave him 4 of the 60mg kode@ns i got from SL, he took two and I asked him what he thought, he said they were pretty strong and he got dizzy off them. I had the same feeling once I went about a week without taking any kode@n and when I got my order i took four and it was a pretty good buzz. 

 
Kurt Codean said:
@ratso5I think they are about equal in strength or possibly slightly stronger. My brother gets t4 prescribed from his doctor and he went a way for a while, he came back for a visit and to see his doctor to get new scripts, but had run out of his T4s and hadn't taken any for a while, so his tolerance was low, and when he came back I gave him 4 of the 60mg kode@ns i got from SL, he took two and I asked him what he thought, he said they were pretty strong and he got dizzy off them. I had the same feeling once I went about a week without taking any kode@n and when I got my order i took four and it was a pretty good buzz. 
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I took .50 mg of diphenhydramine (it's a potentiator) about 45 minutes before taking 4 (60s).  It gave me a nice kick for 1 1/2 hrs and then I felt totally normal.  This was somewhat confusing. When I take well known brand name 60mg kode@n (pure), I get a kick along with a continuous diminishing body buzz when coupled with the alcohol over 6 hrs.  It makes me think the ingredients are different than brand name kode@n.  They were still good but it made me want to take another 4 but I knew that would not be wise so I was disappointed and tried to get a beer buzz instead...

There's nothing like well known brand name kode@n....

 
ratso5 said:
I took .50 mg of diphenhydramine (it's a potentiator) about 45 minutes before taking 4 (60s).  It gave me a nice kick for 1 1/2 hrs and then I felt totally normal.  This was somewhat confusing. When I take well known brand name 60mg kode@n (pure), I get a kick along with a continuous diminishing body buzz when coupled with the alcohol over 6 hrs.  It makes me think the ingredients are different than brand name kode@n.  They were still good but it made me want to take another 4 but I knew that would not be wise so I was disappointed and tried to get a beer buzz instead...

There's nothing like well known brand name kode@n....
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Hey are you sure you don't mean 50mgs of diphenhydramine not .50mg? Because that is the main ingredient in Ben@dryl and they  come in 25mg tabs. I usually take a couple of those at night to help me fall asleep. Also I didn't know that was a potentiator but I heard it was good to block the itchiness that comes along with Kode@ns. Also I'm not really aware of any name brand pure Kode@n. I'm only familiar with the pure Kode@n from SL and the Kode@n that is prescribed in tylenol 4s. The T4 probably wouldn't go well with alcohol because it has acetomenaphin. I normally don't drink alcohol even with the pure version though or with anything for that matter because alcohol usually amplifies the effects of everything. But I take other medications too so it's not just Kode@n I don't want to mix it with. I ordered something called Phen@rgen 25mgs which is supposed to be a kode@n potentiator but haven't had a chance to try that yet. 

 
Kurt Codean said:
Hey are you sure you don't mean 50mgs of diphenhydramine not .50mg? Because that is the main ingredient in Ben@dryl and they  come in 25mg tabs. I usually take a couple of those at night to help me fall asleep. Also I didn't know that was a potentiator but I heard it was good to block the itchiness that comes along with Kode@ns. Also I'm not really aware of any name brand pure Kode@n. I'm only familiar with the pure Kode@n from SL and the Kode@n that is prescribed in tylenol 4s. The T4 probably wouldn't go well with alcohol because it has acetomenaphin. I normally don't drink alcohol even with the pure version though or with anything for that matter because alcohol usually amplifies the effects of everything. But I take other medications too so it's not just Kode@n I don't want to mix it with. I ordered something called Phen@rgen 25mgs which is supposed to be a kode@n potentiator but haven't had a chance to try that yet. 
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You are correct...I meant 50 mg (2-25 mg caps)...Oh yeah, there is pure 60mg kode@ns (at least 4 manufacturers in GB-don't know about USA) but I cannot name them on this forum.  Once you try those, anything generic is just not in the same class.  As far as Phen@rgen, they use that in kode@n cough syrup... that is a great potentiator for kode@n and you can only get it via prescription...try 50 mg (no more than 125 mg) with 4 60s and see if that gives you a good kick!!!!

 
Nearly impossible in the UK.Somebody I know got Oxyc0d*ne 80's as he was getting his leg chopped off! The aforementioned I can get at various places.The Napp ones are what were here at the time I got some, some time ago.I don't get them anymore due to dependency problems of

which I sorted out and have posted how on a thread started by the same person whom started this one.

DHC are about here and can be obtained also. I myself dont get anything as far as a kick off of any C0de*ne or Dihydra-- I think due to natural tolerance and past using of much stronger opy8's.

Rivali

 
My brother's osteopath prescribes him morph sulphate 25 mg tabs, which I assume is more potent than anything else mentioned here, although I'm no expert on opioids. He has muscle atrophy from some damage to his wrist as well as a a whole host of other mental and physical problems. He also gets prescribed everything from Provigil to Effexor. His conversation is barely coherent but the doc, who he's known a long time, doesn't seem to have a problem keeping him on a high dose of painkillers. Don't ask me how he does it though.

 
Biteme said:
My brother's osteopath prescribes him morph sulphate 25 mg tabs, which I assume is more potent than anything else mentioned here, although I'm no expert on opioids. He has muscle atrophy from some damage to his wrist as well as a a whole host of other mental and physical problems. He also gets prescribed everything from Provigil to Effexor. His conversation is barely coherent but the doc, who he's known a long time, doesn't seem to have a problem keeping him on a high dose of painkillers. Don't ask me how he does it though.
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No, I had 50&100mg morph*ne sulphate caps & they were not a scratch on the NAPP 80 Oxy's.I didn't get much off morph

I had ice cream tubs full of yellow 10mg,orange 50mg and red 25 or 100 mg If I remember correctly,a friend of mine who broke his back

parachuting got a prescription and gave me them as he wasn't taking them but said he poured away the liquid stuff!!! I was mad at the time.They would be good

for someone with a low tolerance in pain,but very itchy.I didn't get anything off them rly.

Rivali

 
Rivali said:
Nearly impossible in the UK.Somebody I know got Oxyc0d*ne 80's as he was getting his leg chopped off! The aforementioned I can get at various places.The Napp ones are what were here at the time I got some, some time ago.I don't get them anymore due to dependency problems of

which I sorted out and have posted how on a thread started by the same person whom started this one.

DHC are about here and can be obtained also. I myself dont get anything as far as a kick off of any C0de*ne or Dihydra-- I think due to natural tolerance and past using of much stronger opy8's.

Rivali
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>>DHC are about here and can be obtained also. I myself dont get anything as far as a kick off of any C0de*ne or Dihydra-- I think due to natural tolerance and past using of much stronger opy8's.<<

I would agree with the above...kode@n is a lightweight when compared to other opyies.  I never went beyond kode@n for that very reason.  Plus, I only use it once a week to keep tolerance issues at bay... 

As far as UK...DHC and pure kode@n are still possible to obtain and have sent to USA but more difficult than a year ago...

 
ratso5 said:
>>DHC are about here and can be obtained also. I myself dont get anything as far as a kick off of any C0de*ne or Dihydra-- I think due to natural tolerance and past using of much stronger opy8's.<<

I would agree with the above...kode@n is a lightweight when compared to other opyies.  I never went beyond kode@n for that very reason.  Plus, I only use it once a week to keep tolerance issues at bay... 

As far as UK...DHC and pure kode@n are still possible to obtain and have sent to USA but more difficult than a year ago...
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I agree & my tolerance sees c*dein$ & M0rfin* as nothing due to higher opy8 use in the past....

When I can PM I will have to chat on that DHC situation as that could be beneficial.

Rivali

 
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Rivali said:
I agree & my tolerance sees c*dein$ & M0rfin* as nothing due to higher opy8 use in the past....

When I can PM I will have to chat on that DHC situation as that could be beneficial.

Rivali
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sounds good...

 
Hey I just wanted to update this topic, Last time I saw my PM doctor I asked him if he could increase my h1dr0c0d0ne form 90 10/325 to 120 10/325mgs. He said yes and did it for me but he also said that that was the highest he can go. So I don't think I'm going to ask him to change my medicine to rocksea c0d0ne in the future. Also he still gives me 30 2mg cl0n@zepams and I was wondering if I should try to ask him for 60 of those, but i think after what he said about reaching the limit with h1dr0s I don't think I should try to ask for that. 

 
From my little location, the Dr's are very relucatant to write anything with a the word Schedule attached to it.  My random friend told me his Doc explained that if he were to write hyrdo or oxy for more than 3 months, they had to justify in writing to the D3@ why that patient needed the Meds.  Failure to do so could not only cost them their license, but land them in jail.  No wonder h3r10n overdoses have sky rocketed.  

 
If you have a legitimate source of pain, then get a consult with a specialist or a surgeon that deals with whatever area you have a problem in. He'll go through all the surgery options. You can then let him or her know that you aren't sure if you are ready for surgery, and ask for something to make you more comfortable. They may say high dosages of Tylenol/advil ,but you can say that it makes you feel weird. They may go for Tr@mmy's after than and just say that it made you feel really weird. Next option is going to be hydr0, as they really dont prescribe T3's much for long term pain. Eventually the surgeon will not want to continue prescribing you meds, and if they trust you, they will refer you to a pain doctor. Pain doctors respond much better to patients referred from specialists. From there, you just ask for the conservative treatments which normally include meds. Good pain doctors also have some good non-intrusive techniques for helping pain. I have a pretty bad back and recently got the nerves burnt off that were transmitting my arthritis pain on my spine. Worked really well.  

If you don't have a legitimate pain source then try meditation and floating in isolation tanks instead.

 
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Kurt Codean said:
Hey I just wanted to update this topic, Last time I saw my PM doctor I asked him if he could increase my h1dr0c0d0ne form 90 10/325 to 120 10/325mgs. He said yes and did it for me but he also said that that was the highest he can go. So I don't think I'm going to ask him to change my medicine to rocksea c0d0ne in the future. Also he still gives me 30 2mg cl0n@zepams and I was wondering if I should try to ask him for 60 of those, but i think after what he said about reaching the limit with h1dr0s I don't think I should try to ask for that. 
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He may have meant that the quantity was the most he could prescribe.  If it gets to the point where your prescription isn't helping your pain, you have every right to at least pursue something stronger that has a shot at working

 
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