How Many

[doesit]

So as the title asks how many benzos do you take daily,As i recently noticed that when at work id take 6,2mg bars but end up with 2 left at the end of the day,and barely able to do anything besides going to bed for a nap.And alough alp has to be sedating but any sedation that i get is only 10h later,otherwise it makes me somewhat energetic for the time being.Also to note i take my meds once or twice a week and try to mix them up with diazepam for longer effect.Otherwise i can function without any meds normally most days and there isnt that much of cravings after 6months of usage besides the dosage increase which was 1-2mgs per day at start.Also gonna try to go completely cold turkey for two weeks and see how that goes,just to return to lower doses.the only thing that bothers me is insomnia,which is different story as i had it all my life and it takes most nights about 3-4hours to fall asleep then 8 to 12hsleep and i wont even bother waking up and cycle begins again.So anyone care to share

 

[Captain Insano]

I have been able to take time off from benzos for months at a time.

sure coming off sucks..i taper down before i completely come off...

6 months later..i hop back on..or whenever i start to get really stressed out..

it helps my tolerance tremendously

 

[doesit]

same here gonna try two week cold turkey tapper off just for body to clean up and start producing its own gaba

 

[xangret]

I'm too wanting to 'clean up' my body (and get my tolerance back down a bit). But i have like zero willpower, so tapering never works. And cold turkey frightens the hell outta me, did it once, never again. Any ideas how to get my tolerance down? its really high, i take way way high doses, even by the standards of this forum. I tried "oh i'll only take 5 today" and ended up taking lets say 20 because I got bored. got a benzo high coz i was bored! no wonder my shrink thinks im nuts

 

[doesit]

I'm too wanting to 'clean up' my body (and get my tolerance back down a bit). But i have like zero willpower, so tapering never works. And cold turkey frightens the hell outta me, did it once, never again. Any ideas how to get my tolerance down? its really high, i take way way high doses, even by the standards of this forum. I tried "oh i'll only take 5 today" and ended up taking lets say 20 because I got bored. got a benzo high coz i was bored! no wonder my shrink thinks im nuts /default_tongue.png

im not a doctor /default_smile.png but after long term use in high doses ,your liver or kidneys dont know which one develops immunity to the benzo effect so it doesnt matter how much you take body wont respond anymore to the effects of it.my advice is get a weeks or two holidays and stick to five a day or something low,even try not to take on such days when sitting at home or doing nothing,that way withdrawals might start mildly but it will be a signal to body to recover and develop its own gaba,as high doses in long term=damage to kidneys or liver,not to mention brain capacity to operate properly.good luck.

 

[chaos7979]

I have found that if I go to two then one is never enough,if I go to three then two is never enough,and so on. Even on those rare occasions when I do take a "vacation", in no time I am back where I left off.. /default_wacko.png There must be something I can take for this condition??

 

[Guest]

I'm too wanting to 'clean up' my body (and get my tolerance back down a bit). But i have like zero willpower, so tapering never works. And cold turkey frightens the hell outta me, did it once, never again. Any ideas how to get my tolerance down? its really high, i take way way high doses, even by the standards of this forum. I tried "oh i'll only take 5 today" and ended up taking lets say 20 because I got bored. got a benzo high coz i was bored! no wonder my shrink thinks im nuts /default_tongue.png

Dude you need to take a break...20 what by the way. Xanax,Lorazepam,Valium...

Benzos are so good thery're dangerous, like a big piece of cake waiting to be devoured, then you just want more and more.

I'm currently coming off 8mg Clonazepam a day. Not so bad so far.

Good luck

Best

MVT

 

[Guest]

I take anywhere from 4mg to 8mg of Alprazolam a day... On occasion I'll add in a bit of Diazepam and back off the Alprazolam. I have come completely off and come back on and tolerance does build quickly, but I don't think your body is the main culprit - I think it's psychological.. ie.. Went from 8mg to 1mg a day for a month.. Then once I start upping it back for whatever reason, I'm not thinking add a half mg. I'm thinking double the dose! I could be wrong, that is just how I've experienced my "on and offs" and increases in dosage.

 

[doesit]

to update on my progress with anxiety,i found middle for a while basically on days when needed i take 40mg diazepam and 2mb xan bar in the morning ,then couple hours later 2mg xan bar and around noon 40mg diazepam and xanax bar,basically when diazepam kicks in full power i dont feel to take more pills or up the dosage,but in many situations it varies as it takes up to 4 hours to start working.but lets say on days when im doing nothing and want to medicate 4mg xanax puts me to bed straight away.I know its not medical forum,but anyone tried to change diazepam with clonazepam,as clonazepam is mor seizure control meds,but thinking giving it a try as taking 80mg diazepam is a bit to much pills and stress on kidneys liver long term.thanks for reading.

 

[Casablanca]

Diazepam help tremendously to get off Tramadol for me. Sleeped most of the day for about a week.

 

[doesit]

Diazepam help tremendously to get off Tramadol for me. Sleeped most of the day for about a week.

strange diazepam never worked for me, at night if i take 40mgs i would wake up in the middle of the night and wouldnt fall back to sleep,i find couple of xanax bars do the best job with sleeping,guess everyones different.

 

[doesit]

to keep my topic alive and anyone who is reading,im in position now where im able to have 3-4 days of meds completely,every week but then theres few days in a row where im back on high dosage of XA bars and diazepam,first day or two when im off its sorta ok,i believe because its still in my system,but then withdrawals start ,every night i sleep ,in like conscious sleeping mode,and mornings are very irritable as i would lie in bed irritated or sorta depressed,but couple hours later after waking up having breakfast,im anxiety free,can do shopping,have a chat with someone and feel anxiety free for time being,mostly i think its due because im not being pushed into doing things or being in a rush,the anxiety is not cured but,i do feel positive effects of the meds,as for addiction there is a bit of crave during the day time and into the night but knowing side effects,drowsiness and sleepiness that come with them i refrain from taking any benzos if i dont need them for the whole day.So after reading some horror stories wanted to share my side of story going trough withdrawals,its not so bad as many describe or put it on the table,yes there is addiction stuck to benzos but also i could see how its possible to get better and reduce dosage to minimum or only when needed,to improve ones life.Anyone's having similar experiences feel free to share.Peace

 

[doesit]

To add Also dont go cold turkey ever without having backup of what you take,as myself described i can go off when possible but i also bear in mind that whenever $hit hits the fan i will be ready,maybe knowing that you have a choice keeps the mind at ease but controlling that decision is same important

 

[fosby12]

any comments on the general quality of Roche 10mg Valium of the European variety? I am new to trying valium and they seem to have little effect. I AM however, an accomplished drinker, so.....and maybe all pills that are MARKED the same are not REALLY the same....?

 

[Guest]

Xanax is a really easy drug to build tolerance to. I try and keep them for what they are needed for Panick attacks. If I took 1 bar it would KO me for the day!

For me valium is my worst enemy & best friend!

I have been tapering for about 5 - 6 months and am down to about 10 - 15 mgs a day now from 80 - 100mg a day for an extremely stressful situation that happened last year.

For me I think the hardest thing is sleep but I have done this a few times before so I know I will be succesful.

I will probably cold turkey when I get near 5 mgs a day.

I use the Ashton method:

http://benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm

 

[Guest]

Robin, I posted about clonidine in another thread as did you about the Ashton method. But if you can ask a doc for clonidine it would help a lot. It's not addictive at all and really helps with jumpiness, restlessness and just over all discomfort from detoxing off a substance. It's not something to take all the time as it makes you groggy and cottonmouth galore. But if you have a plan to get clean and you are trying sleep or you can get rid of the twitches the the general feeling that your body wants to bounce of the walls, it works!

To conclude, there is no "magic pill" answer when weaning off a substance... It's a combination of things. Clonidine, as I know from experience does help with the "twitchyness" of withdrawal. Other than for this use in the case of withdrawal, it's not worth using long term. Use it if you need to kick the habit and that's it.

PS, it has no recreational value.

 

[Khalifa]

If you are at 5mg of Valium (that is what I am at) Is it worth dropping down to 2.5mg? Or would it not make much of difference really. But wow 80-100mg that is a lot.

PS, oh and we are all different but Clnidine did not help me at all. Didn't agree with other meds I guess.

 

[Khalifa]

Sor far I am not having much problem with staying on 5mg. I'm sure I'll jump off shortly. Would Chlordiazepoxide be a safe alternitive and would it be able to show up in a UA

I noticed Starlite has is stock. Just not seeing many membmer used it makes me cuious

Thak you in advance

~Wiz

 

[Slammer]

For me to feel much of anything these days I need about:

4mg Xanax

30mg Valium

4mg Clonazepam

24mg Bromozapam

Keep in mind, that's not all of them mixed together in some massive cocktail of meds.

It's just one or the other.