How To Legally Accept Packages (Not Written By Me)

Mr. Crowley

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Hi Team DBG, I found the write-up below on another board and, with their permission, have decided to repost it here. I have no way to assess the veracity of this information, so everyone should take was is written here with a grain of salt. However, just because I can't confirm this information, doesn't mean that it's not accurate. If anything else, this should provide a good starting point for a discussion about what kind precautions we are, or we should be, taking to ensure that we are protecting ourselves. I also think it's important to factor in the cost/benefit of various approaches. After all, we have to be practical. Not all of us have the time, money, and motivation to put forth the effort needed to perfect a given process. At any rate, this is where my writing ends:

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"I am going to show you how you can legally accept any drug package even if it is compromised or contains a large amount of illegal drugs. My source is the 400 page book "Drug Interdiction: Partnerships, Legal Principles, and Investigative Methodologies for Law Enforcement" written by two career sheriffs with the help of prosecutors, law professors, and other law enforcement for the purpose of educating law enforcement personnel and prosecutors. First lets take an excerpt from Chapter 10 "Drug Parcel Systems".

"Parcel systems -private, commercial, or the U.S. Postal Service - are

extremely popular for the transportation of narcotics among drug traffickers.

Drug traffickers and drug trafficking organizations have used this method of

transportation for a number of years. The transportation of narcotics using

various parcel systems has been exploited, and it continues to be a popular

method of transportation, because it is relatively safe and inexpensive.

These parcel systems are occasionally monitored by law enforcement, but

in most cases, not enough. This type of investigation is difficult to prove and

takes extensive investigative effort. This chapter will outline and provide an

introduction to parcel investigations as an investigative tool. Parcel task force

groups will be explained in detail along with their role in the investigation

of organizations using parcel systems. Parcel facilities will be described, as

well as instructions for training parcel staff in the detection of individuals

using commercial package locations to ship narcotics. Commercial staff will

be trained in the behavior and characteristics of criminal activity displayed

by traffickers while using the parcel system to facilitate the drug trade. Investigative

techniques such as controlled deliveries and the use of tracking

devices will be discussed in detail.

What can law enforcement do to combat individuals and organizations using

the parcel systems to transport and ship narcotics? It is not always easy.

Millions of parcels and packages are shipped throughout the world on a daily

basis. Trying to segregate those parcels which contain narcotics is a difficult

task, to say the least. There are a number of investigative efforts that can be

used in this environment. First and foremost, a properly trained drug canine team needs to be in

place to conduct these types of operations. Without such a resource, parcel

cases are virtually impossible to make. The drug canine is the ultimate instrument

in the development of probable cause for the opening of a suspected

drug parcel. The canine should be a single-purpose drug dog whose handler

trains in the parcel/package environment.

There are three different types of business which law enforcement should

seek out when establishing a parcel interdiction group. First is the commercial

private system, such as the United Parcel Service (UPS), Federal Express,

Airborne Express, DHL Worldwide Express, and other freight services such

as Roadway and Yellow Freight Company. Then there are the independent

parcel companies including franchises such as Pac n’Send, Mail Boxes Etc.,

Zip-N-Ship, and others. The U.S. Postal Service is the third type of parcel

business that we will be exploring for suspicious activity.

With respect to the U.S. Postal Service, state and local law enforcement

officials must deal with the U.S. Postal Inspector’s Office, which has primary

jurisdiction over all U.S. mail. The U.S. Postal Inspector’s Office works

closely with other federal agencies, including the U.S. Customs Service,

which inspects parcels and other cargo entering the borders of the UnitedStates.

State and local law enforcement, as well as federal authorities, do

not have jurisdiction in the investigation of narcotics shipped through the

U.S. Postal Service.

The U.S. Postal Inspector has a number of offices located throughout the

United States. The Postal Inspector’s Service monitors parcels through its

system and can provide historical information on previous parcels delivered

to a particular location. It also has tracking capabilities of anticipated suspect

drug parcels. The U.S. Postal Inspector’s Office works closely with state and

local law enforcement to conduct joint operations, including controlled deliveries.

If a state or local law enforcement does not have a relationship with

respect to a drug parcel unit, the Postal Inspector’s Service is a good partner

that can assist in drug parcel operations. When forming a drug parcel squad,

the law enforcement agency should reach out to the Postal Inspector’s Office

for the purpose of partnering in investigations.

Commercial private systems are typically extremely cooperative with law

enforcement in drug parcel investigations. Drug parcel groups should

approach company management and the loss prevention officer to initiate a

program. Independent parcel companies, which are franchise companies, generally

provide services for small business needs such as packing and shipping, and

providing business addresses. These small postal service centers are extremely

popular locations for drug traffickers to send and receive drug parcels. Many

of these facilities have mailbox rentals available.

Let us examine some of the possible indicators of criminal activity with

respect to parcel investigations. These indicators are not all-inclusive; however,

they have been found to be typical of the behavior and conduct of

individuals who are using parcel systems to facilitate drug transportation.

This behavior is typically identified during a face-to-face encounter at a

commercial and independent parcel service. Observation is typically made

at the counter when an individual is shipping or receiving parcels. Some of

these indicators of possible criminal activity are:

• Sender displays nervous tendencies

• Sender asks many questions as to the details of the delivery of parcel

• Sender information is fictitious

• Receiver address may not be correct; for example, a vacant lot or vacant

residence

• Receiver name may be fictitious

• Handwritten or typed airbills

• Handwritten or typed labels; business-to-business labels.

• Sender requests next-day air delivery and will pay a higher rate without

question

• New boxes

• Contents are not what is described

• Unusual contents described

• Sender arrives late or very close to closing time to mail parcel

• Sender calls facility to see what time it closes

• Sender is a first-time customer

• Sender has a continuous pattern of suspicious activity

• Mailbox rental receives parcels from source area and no other mail

• Parcel addressed from individual to individual or business to business

• Sender appears rushed and nervous, and provides contradictory information

about the parcel

• Strong odor emanating from parcel, possible masking agents

• Scented dryer sheets

• Mustard

• Axle grease

• Foam insulation

• Motor oil

• Parcel box flaps heavily glued

• Incorrect zip code

• Surveillance of location by receiver of a parcel

• Cash and corporate labels utilized

• Overall suspicious behavior of sender or receiver

An individual who asks many questions about parcel delivery such as

the exact time of delivery may be suspect. Fictitious sender information

such as name, address, and telephone number is common because the

sender does not want to be identified. Receiver address may not be correct,

for example, a vacant lot or an unoccupied residence that may be for sale.

The trafficker may be waiting at a vacant residence that is for sale or at a

residence that is not theirs that they are just using for a delivery. There may

have been surveillance to confirm this. A vacant lot or vacant residence is

a common delivery destination, where the delivery driver may drive by and

a person would flag him down, asking him if he had a package for that

location.

Once parcel staff has been trained to conduct operations on sorting facilities

and independent operational locations, investigators may utilize a

drug canine team to conduct random examinations at these facilities. In

the case of independent operations, the canine team may routinely conduct

random examinations of parcels. This process can be done quietly in areas

away from the public. Typically, when a parcel is received at the facility,

it is placed in a routing area with other parcels. The canine team can be

deployed to examine parcels at the location. Outgoing and incoming parcels

may be examined. In random examinations at sorting facilities such

as UPS, Federal Express, and Airborne, investigators may conduct visual

examinations of parcels, later segregating those parcels for examination

by the canine team. It is not recommended that the drug dog be placed

on a sorting belt for examination of parcels. The dog will lose interest if

“loaded” parcels (parcels with drugs) are not placed for it to find, or the

dog will tire after a time. Suspicious parcels should be segregated for the canine team to examine.

When the canine team advises the investigator that the dog has alerted for

the odor of narcotics in a suspected parcel, an investigation commences. An

outgoing parcel investigation should be conducted to verify sender information

such as name, address, and telephone number. Probable cause necessary

to obtain a search warrant for the parcel is developed in this way. It may be

necessary for investigators to verify location by driving by the address. A

sender address may not exist or may be part of a large apartment complex

with no apartment number. The sender name must be verified, and typically

is a common name or does not exist as it relates to a particular address and

telephone number.

At this time, investigators should notify the law enforcement agency in

the jurisdiction the parcel is being sent to, in order to discuss the receiver

information in their jurisdiction. Outgoing parcels are typically from source

cities or states or from an area from which currency may be sent to purchase

drugs. The receiver law enforcement agency should conduct an investigation

on the name and address. Typically, the name of the receiver is fictitious or

is a variation of the true name of the receiver. The address is generally correct,

because the sender wants the package to be delivered. However, the location

may be a “drop” location or a residence where the receiver may be waiting

for the parcel to be delivered. There may be information from the other law

enforcement regarding the location to which the parcel is addressed. Intelligence

information or other criminal investigations may reveal the location

to be a known drug house.

With a package that is to be delivered from business to business or individual

to business, the law enforcement agency should conduct a thorough

investigation as to ownership and management of that location. There have

been cases where, for example, a clerk at a convenience food store has used

that location to receive narcotics via a parcel. The package was addressed to

the convenience store, and the employee was awaiting delivery of the parcel.

If law enforcement agencies determine that the information on the sender

side is fictitious, coupled with the canine alert on the parcel, probable cause

would exist to obtain a search warrant. The local jurisdiction the parcel is

located in would prepare a search warrant and have a magistrate or judge

sign it for purposes of opening the suspected parcel. Before removing the

parcel for the purpose of obtaining a search warrant, a parcel facility should

be provided with a receipt for the item. The receipt should include the facility

name, location, package type, and the date and time that the parcel was taken

into custody, along with a police case number. There should be a description

of the parcel or parcels. The receipt should be signed by the person releasing

the property and by the investigator. A copy of this property receipt form

should be provided to the facility for their records and also be kept as part

of the case file...........

Parcels from commercial parcel services can be tracked via the Internet

or by telephone. With a tracking number, a package can be tracked to its

destination and where it is currently located. The package may leave a

location to go to a hub area, and be distributed from that location. Management

or loss prevention personnel of the facility should be asked to make a computer

entry in their system so that if the drug trafficker checks

the parcel by tracking number, it is not reflected that the parcel was taken

into police custody. This should be discussed, and the tracking may reflect

that there was some sort of sorting problem and that the parcel is at a

particular location. This is extremely important with overnight parcels, as

time is critical in the delivery of the parcel, which makes it very difficult

to conduct a controlled delivery in a timely fashion.

Once probable cause is developed and a search warrant is obtained and

signed, the parcel may be opened for examination by the law enforcement

agency. It should be opened carefully so as to not damage the parcel in its

original state. Once the interior of the parcel has been examined for the

verification of narcotics, the investigators may take a sample of the contents

before delivery in case the parcel is destroyed during the controlled delivery.

The parcel should be closed and placed in another parcel, initialed, and

dated. It can then be sent through the parcel system to the investigators

conducting the controlled delivery in the destination jurisdiction. A copy

of the search warrant that was executed on the parcel should be made

available to the receiving agency. This will assist in preparing an anticipatory

search warrant in preparation for the controlled delivery of the parcel

to a residence or business. All investigative documents should be forwarded

to the agency as well.

A police agency that has a parcel investigative group in another jurisdiction

may contact your agency to ask if you would like to receive a package

that has been identified with narcotics. The same steps are taken in preparing

for your agency to conduct a controlled delivery in your jurisdiction.

Typically, the other law enforcement agency will conduct a thorough investigation

and develop probable cause to obtain a search warrant to open the

suspected parcel. They may take a sample of the narcotics and then send

the parcel with all of the documentation to your agency. Once the incoming

parcel is taken into custody at your end, investigators should conduct as

thorough an investigation as possible of the individuals who will be taking

delivery of the parcel.

CONTROLLED DELIVERIES

Once the agency has taken custody of an incoming parcel from another

jurisdiction, all documentation should be reviewed including the search warrant

and other pertinent information. The parcel group should conduct an

investigation including drive-bys of receiver locations to see if there is anyone

at the location who can be identified. Information that can be verified from

vehicle tag information, residence information, and any other source of

information should be explored. Once all of the information has been developed,

a controlled delivery is an investigative option.

A controlled delivery is delivery of a parcel, package, or envelope containing

narcotics under controlled circumstances that has been sent either

via a commercial private parcel company or the U.S. Postal system. The

actual physical delivery is typically made by a police officer in an undercover

capacity, or by the U.S. Postal Inspector if the parcel is U.S. Mail. Under

these controlled circumstances, the objective is to have a law enforcement

officer make the delivery of the parcel to the suspect, who will either sign

for or take custody of the parcel. The undercover agent will attempt to

solicit any statements in which the suspect may admit knowledge of the

parcel delivery. The key to any parcel investigation is for law enforcement

to prove that the subject had knowledge of the parcel’s contents. This is

critical to the prosecution of the suspect in a parcel investigation. It is

virtually impossible to litigate a criminal case without proving knowledge

of contents.

The difficulty with controlled deliveries is timeliness. There is limited

investigative time if the parcel is sent overnight or express mail. Many traffickers

will instruct associates not to accept parcels if they are late. This is a

difficult proposition for law enforcement. An officer may attempt to deliver

a suspect package but the person will not accept it, because he knows that

commercial parcel companies guarantee delivery by a certain time.

Once a decision has been made to conduct a controlled delivery of a

parcel, most states allow an anticipatory search warrant to be drafted. An

anticipatory search warrant is prepared in anticipation of a controlled

delivery of a parcel to a premises. Probable cause, which led the law enforcement

agency to the discovery of the parcel, should be included and articulated

in the anticipatory search warrant. All fictitious information, type

of drugs, examinations, and all other pertinent information should be

included in the anticipatory search warrant.

In some jurisdictions, a judge or magistrate will sign the anticipatory

search warrant before the controlled delivery of a parcel. In other jurisdictions,

the parcel must be delivered and be in the premises before the anticipatory

search warrant is signed. In that case, the investigator will be in the

presence of a judge and as soon as he is advised that the parcel is in the

location, the anticipatory search warrant is signed by the judge. In some

jurisdictions, with an anticipatory search warrant, once the parcel that was

delivered during the controlled delivery is located, the search must be terminated.

In other jurisdictions, investigators may be allowed to include other

items as part of the search warrant such as documents related to the parcel

activity. This must be discussed with the U.S. Attorney’s office, or state or

district attorney’s office in the particular jurisdiction.

In addition to preparing the anticipatory search warrant, investigators

may consider placing an electronic alarm device within the suspect parcel.

This court-ordered tracking device emits a tone once placed inside the parcel.

When the recipient opens the parcel, the device emits a tone that alerts

investigators that the parcel has been opened. The placement and monitoring

of this type of electronic device requires issuance of a court order. Application

for a court order-authorized mobile tracking device is a separate document

from the anticipatory search warrant. The mobile tracking device order

should indicate that law enforcement placed the device in a suspected package

parcel to track the parcel to its ultimate destination and to alert that the

parcel has been opened. No monitoring of conversation is permitted under

these circumstances. Typically, the initial tone of the device is a slow beep

tone and once the alarm has been triggered, it emits a fast, flowing tone. The

criteria for use of an electronic device are the size of the parcel. It is very

difficult to place, for example, a device in an overnight envelope. The box

should be large enough to house this type of device. Law enforcement agencies

can purchase these electronic alarm devices from a variety of vendors.

The device is the size of a credit card or smaller, and less than 1/8in thick.

In preparation for the controlled delivery, investigators should conduct

pre-surveillance of the targeted location in an attempt to identify any individuals

related to the case or any suspicious activity at the location. In a

controlled delivery operation, law enforcement should take the same steps

as for preparation of any search warrant execution. An operational briefing

should be conducted; entry teams and search teams will be assigned with

regard to execution of the search warrant.

When conducting a controlled delivery with a commercial private carrier,

loss prevention personnel will assist in the delivery. The facility will provide

the necessary equipment such as a delivery truck, delivery attire, and necessary

documents to accomplish the delivery. In a controlled delivery using

U.S. mail, the U.S. Postal Inspector’s office will conduct the controlled delivery

with the local, state, or other federal agency. The delivery will be conducted

by someone wearing U.S. Postal Service attire.

During a controlled delivery, electronic surveillance should be used to

secure evidence. Electronic devices such as a body bugs may be used by the

investigator making the controlled delivery for the purposes of safety and to

obtain any evidentiary conversation with the suspect or suspects. The use of

video equipment to conduct electronic surveillance of the controlled delivery

is suggested and can be used as evidence in the case. Surveillance teams should

be in place for mobile surveillance in case the suspect takes custody of the

parcel and departs the location once the delivery has been made. Mobile

units as well as air support, if available, with either a fixed-wing plane or a

helicopter, is suggested.

The decision to stop or detain the suspects is different in every case. The

circumstances will dictate the approach. One of the difficulties in conducting

controlled deliveries is the wait — how long it will take the individual to

open the parcel after he takes delivery. This goes toward proving knowledge

in a parcel case. The electronic alarm device makes this easier. When an alarm

device is not feasible due to the size of the parcel, investigators may find

themselves playing a guessing game as to how long to give the individual

before making entry to a location. If no alarm device is available, investigators

must give ample time for the parcel to be opened. Again, circumstances will

dictate what occurs. If the suspect departs a location and may have the parcel

or the substance contained on his person, a decision may be made to detain

the individual.

Experienced traffickers may wait long periods of time, even a number of

days, before opening a parcel. The agency must make a decision with respect

to how long it will monitor the situation, which will depend on resources

and other factors. In many parcel cases, the use of a “drop house” or business

is used. A drop house is typically a location designated by the sender and

receiver for a parcel to be delivered to. Lower level associates typically staff

it. It may be a friend’s or relative’s home or business or an unknown residence

where there is no relationship to the suspect, such as a vacant home that is

for sale.

There are advantages to the use of a drop house by drug traffickers. Since

it is not the suspect’s main residence, the receiver can claim that he had no

knowledge of the parcel. The parcel is generally not opened at that location

but is picked up by associates and taken to another location where it is

opened. The difficulty in all of this is attempting to keep track of the parcel.

The parcel may be delivered at the drop house, at which time the appropriate

individuals are contacted, and they arrive and take custody of the parcel. If

the package is large enough to be seen being removed from the location,

investigators may attempt to conduct a surveillance and track the parcel with

the tracking alarm device if one is placed. Once the suspected parcel is taken

into another location, whether a business or residence, investigators may wait

until the alarm is triggered, and then make contact with individuals at the

location, securing the residence, and obtaining a search warrant. The law

allows for law enforcement to be able to secure a residence and obtain a

search warrant based on the circumstances described.

Once an anticipatory search warrant has been executed in a case where

a parcel goes into an original location or premises, a number of investigative

efforts take place. During the search of a residence, investigators should look

for telephone billing information. Any telephone records showing out-oftown

telephone numbers may be seized as part of the search warrant. Followup

efforts can be made by possibly identifying the source sender.

The interview of the receiver suspect should be conducted as soon as

possible. The individual may cooperate with law enforcement and enable

investigators to use some innovative options to make a case with the sender.

In cooperation with law enforcement, the cooperative suspect may contact

his source while law enforcement conducts a controlled monitored recorded

telephone conversation between the cooperative individual and the source.

There may be an opportunity for a delivery of monies that are owed for the

narcotics to be made by another jurisdiction, if the suspect cooperates.

Attempt to identify the source during the interview of the receiver suspect.

Obtain information about where the individual resides; names, telephone

numbers, and other pertinent information.

Many agencies that have parcel task force groups have tried an investigative

method known as a “reverse knock and talk.” This is used where

timeliness is a factor and the parcel could not be delivered due to a variety

of circumstances, such as resource issues. The reverse knock and talk is

when investigators contact the individuals at the address on the label of

the parcel containing the drugs. Generally, the name will be fictitious. The

agents ask if they can speak with the party and ask if he has knowledge of

a parcel being delivered at his location. Many will deny any knowledge of

the parcel. Others will admit to having knowledge of the contents and will

provide details about the package and its delivery. The individual may

cooperate and assist in follow-up operations. Nothing ventured, nothing

gained is the motto here. Why not take a shot at trying to further the

investigation, unless other information is developed and a long-term operation

is warranted.

Follow-up efforts may include trash or garbage pulls from the suspect

residence to determine what activity may be occurring. Trash pulls are

permissible from a residence or business if the trash is put out to the

curb for collection. Investigators should not take trash from the residence

if it is near the home such as by the garage; it must be clearly left on the

curb for collection, where there is no expectation by the owner that it

will not be taken. Trash should be examined for remnants or trace

amounts of drugs, evidence of parcel activity such as discarded packaging

from parcels received, and other evidence of narcotic activity. Investigators

have found trace amounts of drugs in discarded packages. All of this

evidence can be used if there is a pattern to track parcels being delivered

at the location as well as build probable cause for a search warrant for

the premises. These are all options that the investigator may take into

consideration.

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service is the investigative arm of the U.S.

Postal Service. Postal inspectors are federal law enforcement officers who

enforce over 200 federal laws in investigations of crime to include controlled

substances. Under U.S. Code 21, U.S. C841, 843, and 844, postal

inspectors initiate investigations related to transportation and distribution

of narcotics through the U.S. Mail or other postal facilities. The U.S.

Postal Inspection Service cooperates with local, state, and other federal

law enforcement agencies in controlled substance operations. These joint

investigative efforts with local authorities are part of parcel interdiction

groups around the country. The postal inspectors investigate individuals

who utilize the U.S. Postal system to facilitate the transportation of narcotics.

The postal inspector’s office does perform the controlled deliveries

of suspected parcels with the assistance of local, state, and other federal

authorities. The U.S. Postal Inspector is typically the individual who

makes a controlled delivery of U.S. mail. Federal search warrants are only

used in searching U.S. mail. State search warrants are not valid in the

searching of U.S. mail.

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service can also assist local law enforcement

in identifying patterns of activity, through what is known as “mail watch.”

With a mail watch, investigators can identify patterns of incoming and outgoing

mail by an individual. Correspondence with the suspect of incoming

mail only is known as a “mail cover.” Investigators can identify correspondence

with the suspect from other individuals. The U.S. Postal Inspection

Service can also conduct a historical search of mail being delivered to a

particular location."

How to accept the package using what we know of the law.

Look, if merely having drugs sent to you is enough to get someone in trouble then I could put every person who has ever harmed me behind bars for life by just dropping some packages in the mail. But it is not that simple. As the law enforcement manual above states PROOF OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONTENTS BY THE RECEIVER IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO PROVE A CASE! If you do not admit to knowing about it there is nothing they can do except try to get you to admit it. Unfortunately police have an extraordinarily easy time getting people to admit that they were waiting for a package filled with illegal drugs. They usually do this by one of two approaches. I have seen both approaches work against hardened criminals and I can't believe the stupid ****ers fall for it and admit their way into years of prison when otherwise they'd walk free. The two approaches really are the good guy bad guy approach. For you personal use buyers you will most likely get the good guy approach first and if it doesn't work then you will get the bad guy approach. The good guy approach goes like this, the police will try to act all nice and like your friend (after giving you a heart attack with a bust) and say, "Look man we don't really care if you ordered yourself a little bit of drugs to use for yourself, we just want the sellers, the real bad guys, we know you are a good dude and a working man and that's why we don't care about you, so just tell us where you got this from. We know you are an honest guy so please just be honest with us. I promise you won't get into any trouble, I will see to that." Then if this doesn't work they will try their scare tactics, "Look man you are ****ED. You are in a lot of trouble and going to jail as it stands. You are going to lose your job, maybe your house, maybe your kids, you are in lots of trouble, the only way to get out of it is to just admit what you did." You will be in a position of fear and shock and you will be amazed how easily you may want to cave into one of their approaches. It's literally because you become dumber. When something like a bust happens your fight or flight mechanism kicks in. What this does is drives all your blood from your brain into your arms and legs. All that oxygen and nutrition you had in your brain is now in your arms and legs to fight or run away. You are now a stupid mother ****er and the cops will take advantage of it. Don't let them. Not going to prison or being on many many years of probation really is just as easy as keeping your mouth shut. Even if you have to go to jail then just go, bond out, and either the cops will fold on their bluff and drop charges, the prosecutor will neglect to file, the judge will toss out, or worse case your lawyer files a motion to dismiss, but 9 times out of 10 you will just have the cuffs taken off and the police will leave knowing that you won. So DO NOT EVER ADMIT TO ANYTHING! Act scared, confused, panicked, whatever, and just exercise your right to remain silent. However, it does not even need to get to that.

Not admitting to anything is the first rule of accepting drug packages safely. But not even allowing them to bust you in the first place is even better as no one wants to have to stand up against the police's gestapo interrogations. I believe the easiest way to do this is by renting a mailbox at a UPS Store or other mailbox rental place (I think the mom and pop independent ones are the best). If you can't pay an extra $45 to guarantee safe deliverance of your drugs then you probably should not be ordering drugs off the internet. Pick one that you can access 24/7 which most are. Always use your real ID. Using a fake ID can instantly compromise your box and very much hurt you if one of your packages becomes compromised. Fake IDs can add to probable cause to open/watch your mail, make it harder for you to deny you had bad intentions with the box, and ultimately get you into a lot of trouble independently of the drugs because post-911 fake IDs are now a serious crime (before they were associated with underage drinking, now they are associated with mass murder, terrorism, id theft, and credit card fraud). So use your real ID/name.

After you have your box then order from a trusted vendor. Ordering from good established vendors who know what they are doing helps greatly in not having to deal with a hot package. When the package comes let it sit there for a couple days. LE does not have the resources to conduct 24/7 surveillance for a small time buyer (and most times not for a bigger buyer as well). After hours, like say 9pm, visit your box, check out the area a little bit, go in, grab your package, and without opening it take it back home. If you like set it to the side as if you forgot about it and open it a couple days later (which maintains the ability to deny knowledge of the contents). When you feel it's good to do so open it up, verify contents, then go hide it in a good place. Now you are good :-). Most buyers and vendors would suggest all of that is going overboard but if you are paranoid that is the way to go and gives you a legal loophole out of any trouble until you can safely hide it (I think burying is always the best option, particularly off your property).

 
Wow, that was really informative!  One thing I don't get though: How does not opening the package help a case for innocence?  If an unexpected package arrived with my name and address on it, the first thing I would do is open it! I wouldn't set it aside for days unless I knew what was in it, or at least that I should wait because it's a birthday or Christmas present to be opened on the day.  Otherwise, I'd open it immediately out of sheer curiosity.

So if someone sent me unsolicited illegal items in the mail, how would it indicate they were unsolicited by not opening the box? If I were a different sort of person, I might open it immediately and call the police. (In reality, if I received unsolicited illegal items, I would probably just throw them away, assuming a prank unless I suspected some serious threat to my own or others' safety, like if it looked like a weapon or something.)

 
Well, this is awesome. Was always curious to find where to find this. This is currently in statute?

 
"renting a mailbox at a UPS Store or other mailbox rental place "

I heard that with UPS mailboxes you have less rights and they can open a package with less of a process compared to the postal service where it has to be ticking, leaking or has an odor? Any thoughts on that? Does it even matter for occasional small orders?

 
I’m wondering if any of this has changed in the last year. My biggest question purely out of curiosity, is how do they prove knowledge, as simply opening a pack doesn’t prove u knew what u would be getting. Anyone would open something addressed to them. What’s the other part in proving knowledge? How far can they do to do that? Besides going through trash and shit. I think it’s important to brush up on this stuff to be informed with current knowledge.

Not for ME course (clutches pearls). For the research project I’m doing. Such a hot topic over the last decade.
 
You're more prone to controlled deliveries with international. Once you have it in your possession, it's yours. Anybody can send you anything. You could always just write RTS and watch it depending upon your situation.

There was an attorney who primarily handled juice cases. Think it was T0m C0ll1ns. Priority d0m requires a fed warrant to open. All the 3 digit carriers can open whatever whenever. I try not to 3xpress anymore than I have to. Carbon copies etc. Also a fan of private boxes
 
Yeah I’m curious about the domestic-ish ones that took a suspicious detour where it stays a few days, and is not €xpr€ss nor pony €xpr£ss. Not sure if methods have been updated since the original post. Specifically if they are always face 2 face. I mean a s€curitee t@g could be left on the gift either way.
 
I’m always curious when it changes from that it’s at my local mailing facility and then two days later has this status
Send item out for physical delivery (Inb)

which I’ve never seen before. Ever.
 
Yeah I’m curious about the domestic-ish ones that took a suspicious detour where it stays a few days, and is not €xpr€ss nor pony €xpr£ss. Not sure if methods have been updated since the original post. Specifically if they are always face 2 face. I mean a s€curitee t@g could be left on the gift either way.

Golly… I’ve had 1 package missing (or looping) since DEC 11, and they want me to give them 60 days total — before asking for my insurance money 🤬

*** Another package of mine was recently found 5000 miles away. They got the magazines to me in less than 48hrs, but Christ…… we all dodged a MAJOR fully with that one!! (It was a $1K+ order)

Workers are all usually SUPER CUSTOMER FRIENDLY. But there doesn’t seem to be enough employees + too many things to deliver

… maybe if postal workers got paid like doctors and lawyers — maybe we’d have 1-2 day deliveries for ALL mail
 
I’m always curious when it changes from that it’s at my local mailing facility and then two days later has this status
Send item out for physical delivery (Inb)

which I’ve never seen before. Ever.

Delivery companies, their deliveries, and their online trackings systems are 🤬🤬🤬🤬 — during these 2024 HOLIDAYS

New Postermaster last year; but DAMN….. I’m seeing things I’ve never seen before — in real life + multiple online systems.

Deliveries absolutely suck this year +++ there seems to be a 20–30% increase in delivery prices

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
 
@ClaytonWest just curious does the package have certain “fragile items”? If so I don’t think I’d file a claim. If it’s just normal stuff, sure. But did u file a claim on any of the magazines, and that’s how u got the one that was 5000 miles away? I’ve filed claims on normal packs and they come pretty quick but never on mags.
 
@ClaytonWest just curious does the package have certain “fragile items”? If so I don’t think I’d file a claim. If it’s just normal stuff, sure. But did u file a claim on any of the magazines, and that’s how u got the one that was 5000 miles away? I’ve filed claims on normal packs and they come pretty quick but never on mags.

5000 miles away = Decent order of Ⓜ️ magazines (very proper packaging)

Yes, I had to file a claim. And that’s how they found it 5000 miles away. (Delivered in less than 48hrs though — thanks to my DBG vendor’s extra insurance)
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Current missing items from DEC 11:

Yeah.. there are 2 vials of Ozempic in there. But unless they smashed a refrigerator on the package — I cannot see the vials being broken or damaged at all. Not 1%


** 0 scans in 7 days now. (Delivery normally = 2 days, 40 miles)

*** Tracking doesn’t say DAMAGED or SEIZED.. just LATER THAN EXPECTED



Hopefully, stuck in a machine or looping on a truck somewhere — probably in Alaska or Hawaii again ‼️
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Case has obviously been escalated (twice); and PO is supposed to call me on Monday (which they probably won’t — until they find my 💝)

They have 60 days, until I can claim my $100 insurance — after I show them more receipts & paperwork

🤬
 
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