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I hope were just getting worried for nothing. TTM has been my go to IOP for some time now. I never was a SL customer. I have probably received 20 orders from them with not even the slightest problem.

Waiting on an order now that shipped the 11th. I'll update when received.

 
Because of the website server still works, I think that this also soon under the original or a different domain will be available.
Do not worry. I think it works to 99% again  /default_wink.png  /default_smile.png
 
hooter1 said:
Love that picture man.  Those links still workin for ya?
It works unfortunately only the start page without "https". The security certificate is intended for original page "Top10medsonline.com".
Unfortunately, I can not login. Believe me, the site is accessible again soon. Probably under a different domain name.
you just need to specify the server address googling every day and see which domain name is displayed.
 
Peace  /default_smile.png
 
hooter1 said:
I'm with ya brother, I REALLY hope you are right
I have in 98.3% of cases always right /default_wink.png . ..
There's too much money behind the page. Top10medsonline.com has over 2000 hits per day. In South Africa, the laws ridiculous and people are corrupt, why this site works so well. I think we get in the next few days an email from the creators of the page with the new domain link /default_smile.png
 
Sit back, take a benzo, and relax bro  /default_biggrin.png
 
hooter1 said:
Oh I'm totally chilled maing, I only got involved because my homeboy Jewbacaa asked me to get some tech details, well, there they are.  If you ARE correct though, based on the tech data, the ONLY explanation could be that LEO shut them down, or some pissed off person sent repeated complaints to the REGISTRAR.   

But, like you said, I dont suspect there was an all out raid, something as simple as a letter to the main server showing some violations etc. Site gets shut down, simple. Change a few names, register a new domain name, and back in business they go. Like I said 50/50, but the tech data is 100%
I agree with you, but I do not understand why top10medsonline register the domain in the United States, but the server is running in Malaysia.

I think you can register the domain in another country where the laws are not as strict?

Basically you would need absolutely no domain, it would be sufficient IP address of the hosting server.

We will definitely be informed how it goes, our email addresses so they have ...

 
johnnog said:
site down for me as well,hope its a temp thing .anyone tried emailing them about it?
Good question but I don't think their email is going to work with their DNS gone. As someone posted above, Enom will yank domains for sneezing in their general direction. So, they just need to change registrars.

 
I agree with you, but I do not understand why top10medsonline register the domain in the United States, but the server is running in Malaysia.

I think you can register the domain in another country where the laws are not as strict?

Basically you would need absolutely no domain, it would be sufficient IP address of the hosting server.

We will definitely be informed how it goes, our email addresses so they have ...
Quick question of curiosity.... do you actually think the server is really running in Malaysia? S-

 
Thanks for positive input that this is just temporary and they will be back.  Their service is top notch.  My email just bounced back, so they are really down...: /default_sad.png  /default_sad.png

@GermanDB thanks for all the updates.  Fingers crossed!

 
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Yes, the server running in Malaysia... Look at this link and you will see it:

http://ru.my-ip.asia/ip/124.217.255.86 

The server Ip is of the T10MEDS and this is hosted in Malaysia...
Hey G-.  Yes, I saw that already before I posted but doesn't really answer the question of if it is really running out of Malaysia  NBD, don't want to get into a back and forth over it but I think you know what I'm sayin'  Happy Friday vibes to you.  S-. 

 
Thanks for positive input that this is just temporary and they will be back.  Their service is top notch.  My email just bounced back, so they are really down...: /default_sad.png  /default_sad.png

@GermanDB thanks for all the updates.  Fingers crossed!
Top10MedsOnline.com will come back online.

The page is still available on the server, it was only the Domain Forwarding of ENOM.com blocked.

Take it easy, just relax and think positive  /default_smile.png

 
Here's the problem! Top10Meds have believed the website would be hosted outside the EU and the United States. But the entire domains of anonymousspeech.com were all registered in at ENOM.com!
PS: MidnightMoon was registrated on ENOM.com too and this site is also down...

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Let's relax folks and give it a day or two to resolve itself. Need I remind everyone of our own DBG domain issue of a few weeks back?

Any and all .com domains, regardless of registrar's physical location, are vulnerable, as they are all administered by Verisign, a Washington, DC based US corporation.

Further, Enom is noted by LegitScript as being "proactively compliant" in purging their portfolio of pharmacy sites, so that's one possibility. Another is that Anonymous Speech historically never included an actual contact name in their WHOIS registrations, a violation of ICANN policy. They have been updating domains in their portfolio to a Swiss entity with an actual contact name, and I know this for several reasons, including DBG's own recent WHOIS registration update. TTM's registration had not been updated when their site went down, so this is another possibility. In either case, and as Hooter mentioned, change a few names, register another URL and off you go.

I'd be surprised if they aren't bac up before the weekend, if not, then by early next week at the outside, although that's just one Wookie's opinion.

 
Well not to change the subject about the site being down, but I received my package today to the Midwest US that was shipped on 7/10.

 
Hey G-.  Yes, I saw that already before I posted but doesn't really answer the question of if it is really running out of Malaysia  NBD, don't want to get into a back and forth over it but I think you know what I'm sayin'  Happy Friday vibes to you.  S-. 
Because it's a relatively safe place to host sites like this. Same goes for just about every counterfeiting site in operation as well.

 
Because it's a relatively safe place to host sites like this. Same goes for just about every counterfeiting site in operation as well.
(A)Understand that and agree with what you are saying...yet still doesn't answer the question.  There are ways around where something is actually not where it appears to be, much like caller ID spoofing.  ( /default_cool.png <<< keep trying to type a b but it's converting to emoticon for some reason.) For example, I could call you right now (well would take me 3 minutes or so to login and set it up and have your CID show whatever number I want to appear)  But I'm calling from the area code and exchange I'm calling from.  Just a thought / opinion, not stating fact on part A.  On CID... absolute fact. No worries on my end anyhow, I don't use TT and don't care about it much except found the IP topic moderately interesting and I feel for the people who have not and may not receive orders.... GV to you my friend on this happy Friday.  S-

 
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DGSB is correct. The IP address of a website is not necessarily indicative of the host server's physical location, and with the advent of cloud hosting, sites can, and often do, rotate servers frequently, which leads me to my main point.

The bottom line is that the key component to hosting any controversial site is the physical location and jurisdiction of the host company, not necessarily it's servers. Juridiction of the company dictates their exposure to enforcement agencies. Point being, you could host with a US company offering offshore servers or private offshore clouds, and it would afford no legal protection, as the host is domiciled in, and subject to, US law.

All the above pertains to the site's host, but that's only part of the story. The other is the registrar, and where this subject is concerned, there is simply no "safe" registrar for .com and .net domains, as they ultimately are subject to Verisign's authority as TLD administrator per ICANN, and as a US company, subject to US court jurisdiction. So, even if a .com domain is registered with a Malaysian registrar, Verisign can still take it down. The only real way to protect against this is to utilize a TLD not under Verisign's authority, and one from a privacy friendly jurisdiction. Swiss .ch domains for example, although this is an extensive legal subject all it's own for another time.

At the end of the day, the US government, the EU and really, any NATO nation can get to and take down a domain if they really want to, and the list of truly safe haven TLD's is rather short. And regardless of all of the technical aspects, the physical location of the business behind the site in question ultimately plays a large role in any punitive / enforcement action.

Privacy, anonymity and legal elements of "controversial" e-commerce are quite multi-faceted, and far more complex than most think. Certainly more complex than an IP address.

 
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